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Juniper 09-02-2008 10:39 PM

Economic Left/Right: 0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.97

Guess I'm just boring middle-of-the-road....

HungLikeJesus 09-03-2008 09:24 AM

In the middle of the road,
Is my private cul de sac.
I can't get from the cab to the curb,
Without some little jerk on my back,
Don't harass me kid,
Can't you tell I'm going home, I'm tired as hell,
I'm not the cat I used to be,
I've got a kid, I'm thirty-three baby.
Get in the road.
Come on now,
In the middle of the road. http://www.lyricsdepot.com/images/t/4901.gif

Griff 09-03-2008 09:41 AM

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middle of the road anarchist...

BigV 09-03-2008 10:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV in 2005
Old Numbers
Economic Left/Right: -6.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28


New Numbers
Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.49

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV in 2008
Economic Left/Right: -5.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.87


dar512 09-03-2008 03:11 PM

2005:

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.36

Today:
Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00

I seem to be drifting to the center, if you believe the results.

lookout123 09-03-2008 03:12 PM

And we welcome you. have some coffee, let's agree on some things.

oh damn, i think i scared him off.;)

elSicomoro 03-31-2009 10:09 PM

Today:

Economic Left/Right: -5.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69

June 2005:

Economic Left/Right: -3.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.23
... Read More
June 2003:

Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -5.69

March 2002:

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -5.38

sugarpop 03-31-2009 10:40 PM

Here's my political compass...

See? I am a socialist-anarchist! :D

Economic Left/Right: -9.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.31

http://politicalcompass.org/facebook...9.12&soc=-6.31

classicman 03-31-2009 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 424073)
01-13-2008, 01:42 PM
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.05

Today:
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.82

classicman 03-31-2009 10:51 PM

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Flint 04-01-2009 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 480423)
In the middle of the road,
Is my private cul de sac.
I can't get from the cab to the curb,
Without some little jerk on my back,
Don't harass me kid,
Can't you tell I'm going home, I'm tired as hell,
I'm not the cat I used to be,
I've got a kid, I'm thirty-three baby.
Get in the road.
Come on now,
In the middle of the road.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camper Van Beethoven
Down here on the tracks
We're the kings of the trash
I was born in a laundromat
I was born in a cul-de-sac
Some of us are brown
And some of us are white
Just give me some tension release
Just give me some tension release


Shawnee123 04-01-2009 10:49 AM

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I took this quiz again and was not surprised at my results, not only because I know I'm pretty liberal but also because I think you'd have to work really hard to get a "middle of the road" chart. I mean, there are no middle of the road questions.

To me, the questions lie on both ends of the extreme, for example:

I think that people who steal bubblegum should be tied to a bee hive, have their eyes stabbed out with an icepick, and their fingers cut off to prevent this unrepentent person, who can never be rehabilitated, from ever menacing society again.

Or:

I think we are all happy butterflies and are free and loved and everyone deserves love and compassion and lollipops.

I mean seriously, what issues did you pick as completely "left and under" that balanced out your extremely "right and over" responses to land so nicely in the middle?

dar512 04-01-2009 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dar512 (Post 480594)
2005:

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.36

Today (9/2008):
Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00

I seem to be drifting to the center, if you believe the results.

Well Shawnee, I answered as honestly as I could both times. I guess it's possible.

Shawnee123 04-01-2009 11:18 AM

You know my penchant for hyperbole, dar. ;)

There are, of course, differences in agreeing or strongly agreeing. Using my examples, one could think "well, we're not all happy butterflies. Some of us are moths, but the really pretty moths like a Gypsy moth maybe. So I'll answer just 'disagree.'"

lookout123 04-01-2009 11:39 AM

I've landed pretty close to the center every time I've taken it. I answered each question with the same views I express in pretty much political thread around here.

classicman 04-01-2009 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 551965)
There are, of course, differences in agreeing or strongly agreeing.

I think that is the reason. I very seldom go 100% one way or the other on these types of tests. There can always be a reason... or the question (like a survey or poll) is written rather poorly. I end up thinking yeh but. I see merits to both sides more so than some hardcore people at either end. The questions that have All, Every, Ever Never... virtually cannot get a "Strongly ____" answer.

I think I only had maybe 4 or 5 "Strongly_____" answers.

Shawnee123 04-01-2009 01:31 PM

I had a few with just agree or disagree, but for the most part I felt pretty strongly about their strongly worded statements.

Then again, I've never really been middle of the road on anything. It's all or nuttin'! ;)

TheMercenary 04-01-2009 02:12 PM

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Heh.

classicman 04-01-2009 02:17 PM

lol - well there's your answer, Shaw.

Merc - That is totally unreal. Thankfully its April first.

TheMercenary 04-01-2009 02:19 PM

I've always known it. I just can't convince others that it is true because they focus on one aspect of my interests.

glatt 04-01-2009 02:26 PM

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Weird. I guess the Cellar is making me more conservative.

TheMercenary 04-01-2009 02:35 PM

Glatt, I am surprised by your result. I would have taken you for more of a left of center. Just goes to show you...

Queen of the Ryche 04-01-2009 02:36 PM

Economic Left/Right: -6.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.54

Just call me Gandhi! Save me a seat Merc, because I am in the same boat. People assume I am a conservative right wing whacko because of the majority of my opinions and beliefs on a public level, but deep down I'm just a big compassionate softy who wants what's best for the greater good.

classicman 04-01-2009 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 552022)
Weird. I guess the Cellar is making me more conservative.

HA HAH AH AHA AHAH AHH HA :eek:

glatt 04-01-2009 02:48 PM

Yeah, well, it is April 1st.;)

classicman 04-01-2009 02:58 PM

I just found it funny that you and Merc switched results.

TheMercenary 04-01-2009 03:01 PM

Actually don't believe it, I took it and sent him my results, he took it and sent his to me! APRIL FOOLS!

not really, they are real results.

Shawnee123 04-01-2009 03:28 PM

Are you serious? That is really funny. :lol:

I'm glad I didn't go on some rant about the validity of this quiz.

edit: never mind, I just saw the imbisible ink.

ARGHHHHHHHHH

lookout123 04-01-2009 03:29 PM

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Not much change here.
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 0.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.10

Pie 04-01-2009 03:36 PM

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Don't think I've changed much.
ETA, I was at -2.88/-4.97 in June 2005. So I'm just as Libertarian, and a little more liberal.

Undertoad 04-01-2009 04:46 PM

Yknow what would be interesting: we could start a section for PC, where each thread is a voting thread, the votes are the PC settings, the votes are public, the votes can be changed by the voters, and then the discussion is what it is.

I mean, if people were into something like that.

It would really piss a lot of people off.

lookout123 04-01-2009 04:50 PM

I'm into discussing things and pissing people off but I'm not sure I understand the mechanics of what you're describing. Can you dumb it down for me some more?

Undertoad 04-01-2009 05:10 PM

Well, like, under Cellar Meta, maybe, we could have a section called "Political Compass", and in there we could post threads where the subject is each question in the P.C. Like the first one would be

Subject: If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations.

Then that thread would have a poll
  • Strongly Disagree
  • Disagree
  • Agree
  • Strongly Agree
And when you have a poll in a thread, when you start the poll, you can set up whether the results are visible to all. (Or maybe it'd be more interesting to have it anonymous?)

And can change your vote as long as the poll is OPEN, so we could just leave it open, or maybe leave it open for a while.

And then, there would be discussion, and people would have to like defend their positions, or people would have things they wanted to defend, or encourage others to vote like them

And maybe if it all worked we would post a "Cellar PC" results graphing everybody's final answer and the Cellar's voting result

Either that or there would be such fury that it would lead to the burning of fiber optic cables.

Or maybe people wouldn't give a shit and the thing would limp along until useless. I can't tell.

lookout123 04-01-2009 05:34 PM

Yeah, that sounds fun. I was being dumb thinking you wanted a fullon survey that interactively displayed the political compass of the cellar as we argued... however that would work.

yeah, your idea sounds fun. and possible. and fun.

TheMercenary 04-01-2009 05:52 PM

I've pissed off enough people around here, I would be very reluctant to participate.

wolf 04-01-2009 07:35 PM

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hmmm. I've wobbled a bit left. Perhaps it's the Vicoden?


April 2009

Economic Left/Right: 7.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.79

January 2008

Economic Left/Right: 8.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.85

June 2005

Economic Left/Right: 5.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.97

November 2002

Economic Left/Right: 2.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.92

Shawnee123 04-01-2009 07:36 PM

I wonder where Dr. House would land on this graph. :)

Tiki 04-01-2009 08:19 PM

http://www.politicalcompass.org/face...3.00&soc=-4.72
Economic Left/Right: -3.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.72

TheMercenary 04-02-2009 10:26 AM

As I have thought about this I may have wobbled left because of the way the questions were worded. A number had extreme statements which made me chose agree or disagree without "strongly". I felt by the end I was reading into the questions and had a very hard time accepting the more extreme statements.

Tiki 04-02-2009 12:28 PM

I felt the same way about a lot of the questions. They kind of forced you to choose a bias, by virtue of being extreme, absolute statements.

Happy Monkey 04-02-2009 03:40 PM

http://cellar.org/picture.php?albumid=2&pictureid=26

Jill 04-03-2009 10:52 AM

Me, Gandhi and the Dalai Lama walk into a bar. . .

Economic Left/Right: -6.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.97

I really like the distribution on this forum. It's nice to have so many compatriots, but equally nice to have a balanced viewpoint represented, as well.

sugarpop 04-05-2009 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 551954)
I took this quiz again and was not surprised at my results, not only because I know I'm pretty liberal but also because I think you'd have to work really hard to get a "middle of the road" chart. I mean, there are no middle of the road questions.

To me, the questions lie on both ends of the extreme, for example:

I think that people who steal bubblegum should be tied to a bee hive, have their eyes stabbed out with an icepick, and their fingers cut off to prevent this unrepentent person, who can never be rehabilitated, from ever menacing society again.

Or:

I think we are all happy butterflies and are free and loved and everyone deserves love and compassion and lollipops.

I mean seriously, what issues did you pick as completely "left and under" that balanced out your extremely "right and over" responses to land so nicely in the middle?

It didn't really allow you to answer, maybe, or it depends on the situation, or neutral, so it is flawed, like all tests of this type are.

Tiki 04-06-2009 02:11 PM

I felt that a lot of the questions really needed an "it depends" option.

sugarpop 04-10-2009 12:29 PM

yes, because every situation is different.

Flint 04-10-2009 12:41 PM

I hate these things because the questions remind me of the joke from elementary school: "Does your mom know you're gay?"

There is no good answer, and what's worse--you know exactly what extremist position they're trying to pigeon-hole you into.

Urbane Guerrilla 04-11-2009 12:53 AM

"I'll try and ask her next time she blows me" might be an effective response. And if you want to start a fight, you might put it "...next time your mom blows me."

Urbane Guerrilla 04-11-2009 01:21 AM

Okeydokey, here's where I land this month, anyway.

Economic Left/Right +4.75
Libertarian/Authoritarian -1.13

Which may be why radar keeps telling me I'm not a good Libertarian -- though he does not get around to telling me I'm a good conservative. Not that I'd expect such a narcissist to ever do that.

piercehawkeye45 04-11-2009 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 555135)
"I'll try and ask her next time she blows me" might be an effective response.

You're from the south aren't you?

TheMercenary 04-11-2009 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 555185)
You're from the south aren't you?

That sounds like racial sterotyping to me.

piercehawkeye45 04-11-2009 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 555206)
That sounds like racial sterotyping to me.

Well when you respond with incest...

TheMercenary 04-11-2009 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 555220)
Well when you respond with incest...

You think that is pervasive or regionally a greater problem in the South? If you do that is a sterotyped view without a lot of basis in fact.

piercehawkeye45 04-11-2009 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 555225)
You think that is pervasive or regionally a greater problem in the South? If you do that is a sterotyped view without a lot of basis in fact.

If I was in elementary school and asked a kid if his mom knew he was gay and he responded with "I'll try and ask her next time she blows me" I would immediately jump on the incest part of it.

And yes, it is a cultural stereotype to make the incest-> south or incest -> redneck reference to be more exact that has very little if any truth to it.

Undertoad 04-11-2009 11:54 AM

Please. The incest is a West Virginia thing.

Shawnee123 04-11-2009 12:01 PM

West Virginia: almost heaven. I won't argue that.

I've said that in the states we make fun of the state immediately south of us. For Ohioans, that's Kentucky and West Virginia. You have WV and more options. :)

richlevy 04-12-2009 09:11 PM

Just to throw some wood on the fire.
States that allow cousins to marry.

Shawnee123 04-12-2009 09:14 PM

:lol: How sad are you if you can only get your first cousin? :shudders:

OnyxCougar 08-17-2009 03:08 PM

Economic Left/Right: -2.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.36

Spexxvet 08-17-2009 03:33 PM

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.46

TheMercenary 08-17-2009 03:39 PM

I just retook it and moved the dot a little up and right, but not by much.

Previous:
http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=552016&postcount=138

Current:
Economic Left/Right: -3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.23


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