I hope your animosity doesn't extend to iOS7 users who don't mind it ...
backs away slowly ...

As long as they don't work for apple they can do whatever they like.:D

This is fairly irritating:

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No calling, no texting, no cell phone internet.:mad2:

I'm showing four bars, and a "No Service" alert. How the fuck can I have four bars and no service?

"Emergency Calls Only"

Doesn't really matter, nobody calls me much anyway.

It is a pisser though.

That's nothing compared to this, though.

Your dad ordered a new roof for your house? :confused:

I think I'd have chosen a different color ... something that wouldn't show the mulberries. I'd be worried about your dad too, although with a little luck there won't be any need for him to get up on the new roof ... ? Sorry, grav.

IDK if you're aware, Ortho, but Momdigr & Popdigr live with me.

Nobody I've discussed this with sees why I would be upset with a free roof I didn't ask for (or even know about). So far everybody would just say 'Hey, a new roof.', and be done with it. I guess I'll eventually get there, I damn sure ain't tearing it off.

Now if I can get the old man to take some money, I'll be happier, but I don't think I'll ever be happy about this.

As for the color...:facepalm: light sand.

Maybe it'll be cooler in summer, idk.

I didn't know ... sorry I posted in the other thread asking the same question.

He meant well ...... :(

Metal roofs have many advantages. They are a premium roof. I understand you think it's ugly, and that's an important consideration, but it's not like he replaced the asphalt shingle roof with an inferior product. I'd love to have a metal roof. They are cooler in the summer, shed snow better in the winter, and last longer. If there's every a fire in your neighborhood, a metal roof is much more fire resistant.

And I actually think it looks good.

Be sure to get a few sets of noise-cancelling headphones for that yearly hail storm.

Grav, I've had the same experience with my Dad when he was living with us,
... and now my daughters are having those kinds of issues with me !
I believe it comes from an inevitable feeling of losing control as us old farts get older and older.
So $ becomes, some sense a way of maintaining our self-images.

We don't want to impose ourselves into the lives of our adult children,
but we have had a lifetime of being "the parent" and it's hard to give up that role.
AND, we don't want the squabbles that often come from "offering" or "suggesting" that we help out.
To us, an offer rejected or resisted by our kids is both a good thing
(showing their independence and maturity) and a bad thing
(showing they don't need us as much any more)

I'll bet your Dad had the very best of intentions of trying to "help" you,
and I doubt that, in his mind, it had anything to do with "home ownership".

A simple "Thank you, Dad" would probably do a lot more (for him), than any offer of $.

The ios7 for iphone is horrible. It has some nice additional functionality but it looks fucking horrible. Flimsy and flat, like pictures in a child's colouring book.

And the movement. Yech. All those fancy flourishes, do not need.

I told you, but would you listen?

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Smarty pants.

There's the root, kinda. See, they owned this house, then sold it. Then, after one in-between owner and a few years, I bought it. It still feels like their home, I'm sure. And, it is...But it's now my house.

Absolutely, no doubt, whatsoever.

It will be hell trying to get him to take money. But, I won't be able to live with myself if I let the old man pay for a new roof. Might just buy him something.

None of my friends understand why I'm upset about this.

Friends: "Ya got a free roof, fool, STFU."

OK, tropical depression Karen remnants, you can move off into the Atlantic now. We don't need you sticking around for this 3 day weekend. Three days of heavy rain is enough already.