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Undertoad 11-30-2005 07:43 AM

Iran: President Says Light Surrounded Him During UN Speech

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Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad says that when he delivered his speech at the UN General Assembly in September, he felt there was a light around him and that the attention of the world leaders in the audience was unblinkingly focused upon him.
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Ahmadinejad said that someone present at the UN told him that a light surrounded him while he was delivering his speech to the General Assembly. The Iranian president added that he also sensed it.

"He said when you began with the words 'in the name of God,' I saw that you became surrounded by a light until the end [of the speech]," Ahmadinejad appears to say in the video. "I felt it myself, too. I felt that all of a sudden the atmosphere changed there, and for 27-28 minutes all the leaders did not blink."

Ahmadinejad adds that he is not exaggerating.

"I am not exaggerating when I say they did not blink; it's not an exaggeration, because I was looking," he says. "They were astonished as if a hand held them there and made them sit. It had opened their eyes and ears for the message of the Islamic Republic."

Griff 11-30-2005 07:39 PM

I don't know if you're allowed to call our new ally a kook.

wolf 11-30-2005 07:40 PM

Is that a Jihad I smell on the sirocco?

richlevy 11-30-2005 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff
I don't know if you're allowed to call our new ally a kook.

Great, a born again crusader on our side and an Islamist who sees himself bathed in light on the other.

It's time to start pacing off that bomb shelter.http://www.cellar.org/images/newsmilies/nervous.gif

Undertoad 12-11-2005 08:56 PM

Israel makes clear they won't tolerate nuclear Iran:

ISRAEL’S armed forces have been ordered by Ariel Sharon, the prime minister, to be ready by the end of March for possible strikes on secret uranium enrichment sites in Iran, military sources have revealed.
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"If we opt for the military strike,” said a source, “it must be not less than 100% successful. It will resemble the destruction of the Egyptian air force in three hours in June 1967."

richlevy 12-11-2005 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
Israel makes clear they won't tolerate nuclear Iran:

ISRAEL’S armed forces have been ordered by Ariel Sharon, the prime minister, to be ready by the end of March for possible strikes on secret uranium enrichment sites in Iran, military sources have revealed.
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"If we opt for the military strike,” said a source, “it must be not less than 100% successful. It will resemble the destruction of the Egyptian air force in three hours in June 1967."

Worst case is an Israel-Iran war drawing in our troops stationed in Iraq.

tw 12-12-2005 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by richlevy
Worst case is an Israel-Iran war drawing in our troops stationed in Iraq.

Since the US invasion of Iran may be in trouble, then it is possible that Israel may take military action. Possible. Not likely. But possible.

Appreciate what is happening in the region. The US is losing its occupation and control of Iraq. The US has lost bases in Uzbekistan that would have been necessary for the Iran invasion. The US is opening bases in Romania for military purposes. These would be necessary for supply operations but not sufficient for launching attacks.

If the US does not attack Iran as scheduled for about 2006, then Israel must reevaluate its strategic objectives. That could mean an attack on Iran. And that would mean the attack would require cooperation from the US – especially from the Pentagon.

Now normally, this would never be permitted. But we don't have a sane leader in the White House. The current White House routinely calls Arabs evil when contrasted with Israelis. The Israelis can do no wrong - even if Israel unilaterally (without provocation) attacks Iran.

And then we must ask when – not if – the draft will need be reinstated.

Remember why right wing religious extremists want Israel to expand their occupation (theft) of the West Bank. To religious extremists, this would bring about Armageddon – the second coming of Christ. Extremists see such war as good for the future. Who elected the mental midget president? Why does this president repeatedly encourage more war – and his preemption agenda? One reason – look at what religious right extremists want. Then ask yourself how an Israeli attack on Iran – that must require US cooperation – would go down.

xoxoxoBruce 12-12-2005 08:51 PM

No so sure the Israelis need our cooperation. What are we going to do, shoot them down? Fat chance.
They learned long ago, it's easier to ask forgiveness than ask permission. ;)

Undertoad 12-12-2005 09:29 PM

Better if they don't ask, it will only fuel the conspiracy theorists that the US controls all and has the final say over anything Zionist.

All they need to do is ask politely not to shoot during refuelling operations.

tw 12-12-2005 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
No[t] so sure the Israelis need our cooperation. What are we going to do, shoot them down? Fat chance.
They learned long ago, it's easier to ask forgiveness than ask permission.

Do you remember the USS Liberty? Mistake? My ass. Was it 52 or 53 Americans killed by the Israeli?

Jordon 01-05-2006 07:31 PM

First, we should do anything necessary to stop this, up to and including full scale invasion. If they were to use a nuke, the US would incinerate them inside an hour.

fargon 01-05-2006 07:52 PM

Dont we still owe Iran an ass kickin, after the events of Apr79.

Griff 01-05-2006 08:16 PM

Operation Ajax

Badgerino 01-06-2006 04:59 PM

great thought
 
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Originally Posted by Jordon
First, we should do anything necessary to stop this, up to and including full scale invasion. If they were to use a nuke, the US would incinerate them inside an hour.

Except that nukes are the big stick that no rational government would use, but then are King George and his court rational? How do we stop the nuclear fallout from drifting over countries that are friendly to us? I suppose it is easier to say "sorry about that" than to ask permission or even council beforehand. How might China react to us messing up their oil supply? How about North Korea who already have nukes that can reach our shores? Although that might be difficult if we go up against one of the largest armies in the world who might give us a little tougher fight than the third rate army in Iraq gave the US.
But on to the next "I" country. Watch out Ireland and Italy because your time is coming, but don't worry India because you are too big and have nukes too even though you got a lot of them there Muslims. Oops! Did I forget Indonesia? There's terrists there too.

All the questions that get in the way of good old red-blooded American revenge. Will the South rise again? I hope not since General Sherman was a direct ancestor of mine. What happens if our own Native Americans develop a virus that kills only non-Native Americans so they can take back the country in revenge for our ethnic cleansing ancestors? I'd be in big trouble again since my family has been in this country for nearly 400 years except maybe my Native American great grandma might help, but maybe 1/8th is not enough blood to help. Probably won't happen anyways.

Just think, the time will probably come soon when we look upon these as the good old days. We'll say to our kids and grandkids, "I remember when gas was less than $3 a gallon and you could still get it. We thought that we were the greatest and could do whatever we wanted to do. Of course that was before King George nuked Iran and China and the rest of the world helped to crush our economy. They said a Depression could never happen again, but here we are. As the Lord said, 'How art the mighty fallen'. I guess it's just us and the Roman Empire. Damn, learning Chinese is hard. Are there any beans left?"

richlevy 01-06-2006 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Badgerino
Just think, the time will probably come soon when we look upon these as the good old days. We'll say to our kids and grandkids, "I remember when gas was less than $3 a gallon and you could still get it. We thought that we were the greatest and could do whatever we wanted to do. Of course that was before King George nuked Iran and China and the rest of the world helped to crush our economy. They said a Depression could never happen again, but here we are. As the Lord said, 'How art the mighty fallen'. I guess it's just us and the Roman Empire. Damn, learning Chinese is hard. Are there any beans left?"

Take a look at my post about Three Days of the Condor. I might have to go see Syriana now as a sort of sequel.

BTW, this is my third backlink for today. I very rarely do this.


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