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Aliantha 11-08-2006 08:58 PM

I think that's all homosexual people have wanted from the begining. Straight people aren't defined by their sexuality, so why should gay people be? Unfortunately, while society at large still regards being gay as something worth at least thinking about before declaring, there will always be a stigma attached to being gay.

9th Engineer 11-08-2006 09:44 PM

It was definately amplified in their defense though. It was some of the loudest supporters of gay marriage that encouraged gays to center themselves around their homosexuality and "be proud of who you are". Intentions aside, I think that the labeling came into play largely in the effort to stamp out the concept of homosexuality being a behavior, since you can rationalize that people have control over their actions.

morethanpretty 11-08-2006 11:03 PM

So my father and I somehow got into a convo about gay marriage. For some reason he thinks that lagal gay marriage will lead to legal polygomy marriages which will somehow lead to legalized pedophillia.

Ibby 11-08-2006 11:08 PM

01) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

02) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

03) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

04) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

05) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

06) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

07) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

08) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

09) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

Ibby 11-08-2006 11:20 PM

and just for good measure...

Questions for Heterosexuals


When did you first realize you were straight?

What made you decide to become straight?

Do you think your parents did something to you to make you become straight?

Did you have bad relationships with people of the same sex when you were young?

Did you turn straight as a result of being molested by someone of the same sex?

How do you think being a heterosexual has affected your work?



As a heterosexual, do you discriminate in who you will sleep with, or will you sleep with anyone else who is straight?

Are you straight because you can't get anyone of the same sex to go out with you?

What would you do if your kids also decided they were straight? Are you afraid that might happen?

Do you really even think you should be around kids as an out heterosexual?

Aliantha 11-08-2006 11:46 PM

very funny Ibram. I have to try not to laugh out loud cause I'm at work. (boo hoo to those of you that think I shouldn't be browsing at work)

Flint 11-09-2006 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha
(boo hoo to those of you that think I shouldn't be browsing at work)

You'll rarely see me here when I'm not at work.

Pie 11-09-2006 04:04 PM

Ibram -- I actually convinced my own mother that "teh ghey" was okay using argument #1. Many, many years ago. ;)

Aliantha 11-09-2006 05:27 PM

My mother was against gay couples raising children. Her argument was that they need both male and female influences on their lives. I pointed out that while I was living with her without either of us having a husband, it was similar to my boys being brought up with lesbian parents i.e. that there were two women and no men in the house.

She got pretty pissed off with me when I suggested that.

Pangloss62 11-09-2006 05:35 PM

Crikey!
 
Quote:

She got pretty pissed off with me when I suggested that.
Way to go, Ali! You did the right thing.

morethanpretty 11-09-2006 06:25 PM

Ibram: Thankyou I'm showing those to my dad...I love the man but he has no logic. Atleast maybe this will shut him up for a bit.

Aliantha 11-09-2006 09:56 PM

Panglo, my mum was very conservative. Strict Catholic all her life. Hardly ever even said 'shit' or any other mild expletive. We just had different perspectives on things...lots of things. lol She was a great woman though.

tw 11-10-2006 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty
For some reason he thinks that lagal gay marriage will lead to ... legalized pedophillia.

It already was legal. Just ask the Catholic Church (who also fears gays).

rkzenrage 11-13-2006 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha
I think that's all homosexual people have wanted from the begining. Straight people aren't defined by their sexuality, so why should gay people be? Unfortunately, while society at large still regards being gay as something worth at least thinking about before declaring, there will always be a stigma attached to being gay.

There was a time when people believed that about women in the workplace, reading, higher education & (heaven forbid) voting.

Aliantha 11-13-2006 03:30 PM

Everything is a process.


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