A.) 'Ibram' isn't even my name, and B.), even if it were, SO FUCKING WHAT? Does having a foreign name automatically make someone's opinions and facts invalid?

xenophobe.

So people taken as slaves out of Africa by British ships were never Muslim?

On the whole, no.

Most slavers hit Africa well south of the Muslim north

It is true that some Muslims were brought into Europe by slave ships though isn't it?

According to a quick google it would seem so.

One tends to overlook the 'mc's and the 'macs' . They try too hard , and they tend to elucidate only the brewers' droop , alas .

Bloody hell , Aliantha , if you really want to know , the Muslim slavers in Africa are reponsible for a far greater movement of people than the Europeans . You may also be interested to know that slavery was banned in Saudi Arabia as late as the 1960's .

Be wary of them Muslims .

They have rules , not thought . They are dangerous for us .

I'm aware of that thank Buddug. What I'm suggesting is that, even if 'on the whole' slaves weren't retrieved from Northern Africa, there is no way to discount the likelihood of Muslims having been taken as slaves by British slavers. Therefore, the Koran was brought to Britain and Europe by British and European means.

And they are trying to make us accept their rules in our free world .

NO . No . NO .

Aliantha , Europe was in contact with Islam via Spain in the middle ages . The Spaniards had the good sense to kick them out for once and for all in 1492 . Boabdil was sent to weep in the Alpujarras .

No, YOU are trying to make THEM accept YOUR rules in EVERYONE's free world.

If they want to live by a different moral code and are NOT HURTING YOU, then they should have all the right in the world to do so.

Funny how they keep hurting us though , innit ? Funny like what them really nice Muslims everyone seems to have fer tea , never EVER say they disapprove . Funny that . Never any sort of blanket disapproval from all those MODERATE MUSLIMS . Never any official stamp of shame . And yet we are expected to stagger on and be fine and honorable saying stuff like ' Islam is about peace '? Islam seems to be more about pieces of body than peace .

... and smooth talking people like Dana C who hide their background and talk about 'we' are slowly establishing Islam in the United Kingdom , within the protection of our laws .

Dana C sees you and I as impure cockroaches , by the way .