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TheMercenary 03-28-2007 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 327468)
There are copyright issues, for one.

Who cares, as long as you post the original link? I don't.

Shawnee123 03-28-2007 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 327454)
You mean I might have a chance? :blush:

Darling, you're at the top of my desperate and ill list of crushes! :thumb: heheeee

Shawnee123 03-28-2007 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 327468)
There are copyright issues, for one.


This is true, but I think most of us do try to remember to credit the source, whether it's in the written text or an embedded link.

Happy Monkey 03-28-2007 01:40 PM

Most news sites don't have a "credit the source and it's OK" rule. Complete duplication without commentary is harder to defend as fair use than short exerpts.

I don't have any ethical issue as long as it's linked, but it could cause a hassle for UT at some point. Kos had to ban it, but of course that site is much higher profile.

Spexxvet 03-28-2007 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 327506)
... Kos had to ban it, but of course that site is much higher profile.

Outside the world of whale penis, that is.

Happy Monkey 03-28-2007 01:51 PM

Well, of course.

elSicomoro 03-28-2007 01:57 PM

The Church of the Whale Penis is still #1 at Google for "whale penis"...whoohoo!

Undertoad 03-28-2007 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 327429)
I'll also tend to use a lot of humor when I'm in a lot of pain.
You may not notice, but I often miss days at a time.
This is when I am unable to be on.

Respect - and heart. I have read you discussing these things many times and when I read into your words, I have never read you feeling truly sorry for yourself, in all that time. You are sorry for the situation, but not sorry for yourself. That is what I admire the most. You da man, sir!!

What I read into LJ is that he was not trying to poke at you, that he was truly trying to work out what would be best. He doesn't poke at people - he is direct with them. So no biggie - no harm done and none intended, unless I'm wrong.

As for HM's point, the careful-eyed will notice that IotD is often a horrible copyright problem. But it's a strange one too, in that it's hard to have some sort of "fair use" on images, and huge numbers of people on the Internet take images wholesale. Most people figure that once an image is on the net it's "out there", but that's clearly not the case. So, I try to avoid some images from places like National Geographic where they have clearly spent a fortune on special photographers to get the shots, and I ask permission from individuals when they have created something.

I asked a group of wire service photographers about this and they said, just use 'em, don't go through the ridiculous process of getting the rights when everybody and their sister is passing the shots along anyway.

rkzenrage 03-28-2007 05:21 PM

Thank you very much.
Namaste'

monster 03-28-2007 09:05 PM

so my original issue was not about the content of the posts at all -whatever they quoted and however much of it and what opinion was given, but just that there seemed to be so many articles that were related yet in different forums, and yet the purpose of the forums seemed to be to keeps posts on similar topics in the same place. In other interweb worlds, the topics would probably have been moved to one place by a moderator. I was just wondering why not here. I can skip topics too, it's not a problem for me --as it happens I am interested in this topic, so I don't. Really not a criticism at all, just a wondering on the scheme of things. Cock.

WabUfvot5 03-28-2007 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 327489)
Who cares, as long as you post the original link? I don't.

Sometimes those articles disappear or get the URL changed. Common sense (which often doesn't apply) leads me to believe it's fair use, as we're not trying to draw away traffic or steal content.

Aliantha 03-29-2007 01:23 AM

I think rkz should just go ahead and do what he wants with the threads he starts, just as everyone else should.

If you're not interested then don't bother reading it.

Spexxvet 03-29-2007 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 327746)
I think rkz should just go ahead and do what he wants with the threads he starts, just as everyone else should.

If you're not interested then don't bother reading it.

Actually, I'm interested, I just don't always have the time to read the whole article, so a synopsis of the pertinent parts helps me. I also want to know his opinion.

Beestie 03-29-2007 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 327571)
What I read into LJ is that he was not trying to poke at you, that he was truly trying to work out what would be best.

I said the same thing to RKZ a few weeks ago. It was a comment on his style and not a comment about him. He was free to disagree and others were free to weigh in - that's how things are done here. Its not personal.

And I still firmly believe it is not appropriate to paste an entire article in this forum unless you make follow up points that require the reader to refer back to the text of the article. If you don't have anything to add then a simple link will suffice to bring the article to the attention of the Cellar and everyone can decide whether or not to click on it.

I agree with LJ and do not think anyone should have taken either his or my points on this issue personally.

BigV 03-29-2007 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 327823)
Actually, I'm interested, I just don't always have the time to read the whole article, so a synopsis of the pertinent parts helps me. I also want to know his opinion.

I post this way, and will continue to post this way. But it's no guarantee my posts, or the excerpts, or the article will be read, as demonstrated in this thread.


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