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DanaC 10-25-2008 12:17 PM

Mm. I am using organise in a more abstract sense. Perhaps, a better way of putting it would be that politics underpins how our societies/groups/families/races/schools/clubs/governments etc etc, are organised. Politics is the name we give to the stuff we do when we interact as human beings: reciprocity, co-operation, hierarchies, place within the group - all these things are what have evolved into 'politics'. We separate 'politics' from our day to day life because we have in modern culture separated 'home' from 'world'. But politics is just the ultimate expression of the tribal/pack interactions which we (along with other species) have found so profitable.

xoxoxoBruce 10-25-2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 497440)
The organizers are always out on the right or left edges and are often destroyers not creators.

Yeah, it seems the extremes, right or left, are the ones most anxious to "organize" every group... make the rules and set the direction/goals.

Dana, that's the broadest definition of politics I've even read. :haha:

monster 10-25-2008 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SamIam (Post 497151)
We live in a republic disguised as a democracy. (don't know if our British friends live in a democracy or a republic


It's a democracy disguised as a monarchy.


btw, in UK politics, bllue = conservative right, red = liberal left. it's like driving...

xoxoxoBruce 10-25-2008 04:39 PM

Btw, you foreigners can vote too.
http://www.iftheworldcouldvote.com/

Sundae 10-25-2008 05:14 PM

Interesting.
I just wonder if "the rest of the world" dislikes the phrase
Quote:

The president of the United States of America is the most powerful person in the world.
as much as I do.

DanaC 10-25-2008 05:59 PM

He is though. If anyone is it's him.

Sundae 10-25-2008 06:10 PM

I just don't need to hear it again and again and again.
It wasn't necessary in that context anyway.

How about if I, in every post, told people I'm on the front desk at EEA. Hey, deliveries, visitors and phone calls are screwed when I'm not there!

Nope. People who work with me know that. There's no point in mentioning it.

SamIam 10-26-2008 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 497546)
Interesting.
I just wonder if "the rest of the world" dislikes the phrase
as much as I do.

Probably the most powerful person in the world is the head of the Saudi royal family. He who controls the oil, controls the world. Without oil to run it, our military would be powerless to engage in its current adventures "making the world safe for democracy." :eyebrow:

richlevy 10-26-2008 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SamIam (Post 497645)
Probably the most powerful person in the world is the head of the Saudi royal family. He who controls the oil, controls the world. Without oil to run it, our military would be powerless to engage in its current adventures "making the world safe for democracy." :eyebrow:

True, but the Saudis are not all of OPEC, and OPEC does not control %100 of the worlds supply.

SamIam 10-26-2008 10:21 AM

True. The last I heard, the majority of our foreign oil imports are from Canada. So, maybe the Canadian Prime Minister is the most powerful person in the world. Go Maple Leaves! ;)

classicman 10-26-2008 11:48 AM

We import the most oil from Canada refine it and send most of that back. Most of the oil we consume/use/waste/whatever does not come from there.

Trilby 10-26-2008 03:27 PM

know what scares me? Old women drivers. Old women drivers who think Barak Obama is an A-rab.

regular.joe 10-26-2008 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 497546)
Interesting.
I just wonder if "the rest of the world" dislikes the phrase
as much as I do.

I much prefer "the hand that rocks the cradle, rocks the world".

Aliantha 10-27-2008 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 497440)
Actually, I think I understand. The idea that "we" organize societies rather than societies being a result of natural interactions is my problem. I sat through some right wing organizing the last time I was in a church and listen to left wing organizing at work. So I guess it is the difference between what I want and what I see. The organizers are always out on the right or left edges and are often destroyers not creators.

Maybe it's natural to organize ourselves, taking into account that for every organizer, there's a herd of followers who just want to be organized.

It's the natural course of events. ;)

TheMercenary 10-27-2008 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 497705)
know what scares me? Old women drivers. Old women drivers who think Barak Obama is an A-rab.

What? He's not? :eek:


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