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Shawnee123 07-13-2009 03:45 PM

UG gets bent out of shape. Clearly my post indicates I don't care who you all shoot. Shoot each other for all I care, but I reserve the right to think guns are icky. ;)

xoxoxoBruce 07-14-2009 02:10 AM

UG gets bent out of shape over evrything.

Urbane Guerrilla 07-17-2009 11:59 PM

I get bent out of shape over fatuity. Happens here a lot. I'm never the one.

Urbane Guerrilla 07-18-2009 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 581234)
Why is it that people who love guns get terribly bent out of shape at other people who don't love guns? Is it necessary that I love guns so that I can see as you do? Does the love of guns make you smarter, and a more worthy individual? Really? See, I don't give a rat's ass if you love guns. Love them to death. Sleep with them. Marry them. Who cares?

The haters of guns are the makers and facilitators of genocide -- or on the retail scale, murder and other savagery. The sacred principle of self-defense, which is inalienable, must in consequence of its sacredness never be messed with. Prohibiting it makes genocide possible -- and it's the most efficient way to make genocide possible.

A good many people do stay ignorant of the gun-control/genocide connection, though. Yet it's hardly a secret.

A decent man is offended by genocides or pogroms. These become impossible once their targets are armed.

Now really, given all the above, where's the huge giant problem with seeing as clearly as I do? Why wouldn't you? -- for I know that this is an act of will, not to see this as I do.

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Expecting everyone to see it as you do, and viewing them as lesser if they don't, only serves to make you look like the fool.
Perhaps to the aberrant, and the genocide lovers. Not to the people of depth and wisdom, whom I do esteem, and who are not fools.

They get that murder and genocide are icky. By comparison, your own private AK looks positively angelic.

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I will never ever order a pizza with you. I am sure that my hate of mushrooms will be met with disdain, disbelief, and disgust...and will result in receiving a pizza with mushrooms because you are right and I am just stupid to hate mushrooms. You'll tell me to pick them off, but I will know that the scent and taste and general essence of mushrooms linger long after I've flicked the offending fungus at your face.
Mind if I call you a dreadful, anti-hobbit philistine, then? :rolleyes: [Given my untrammeled druthers, I like sausage plus black olives and mushrooms on pizza.]

There may be no accounting for taste, but there is an accounting for resisting crime and genocide, which are evils. That's where the gun lovers are better than those unenlightened gun haters. That is where the gun lovers look so much farther ahead than the gun haters. This is what improves the gun lovers so much over the gun haters.

I'll bet you never even thought of any of this.

Shawnee123 07-18-2009 07:53 AM

No, uh, I don't no how to think...I stupid and moronick.

Go jack off on your big gun, you big man. You know you want to. Your big gun is what sets you apart from others. We thought it was your big brain, but we were wrong. Thanks for explaining things to me. I'm headed to the gun and knife show because I'm scared of society.

DanaC 07-18-2009 08:14 AM

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The haters of guns are the makers and facilitators of genocide -- or on the retail scale, murder and other savagery. The sacred principle of self-defense, which is inalienable, must in consequence of its sacredness never be messed with. Prohibiting it makes genocide possible -- and it's the most efficient way to make genocide possible.
Yeah man. It's the fucking pacifists who make the world dangerous. Bet that was the problem in Rwanda eh? People just didn't want to have weaponry. There just wasn't enough weaponry about to end the bloodshed. Mayube if they'd had a handful more machetes, just a sprinkling more of AK-47s, maybe then there'd have been a pleasanter outcome.

Generally speaking my country leaves its guns in the hands of the professionals. Occasionally that leads to an unnecessary and unjust death. It has never, and I don't believe it ever will, lead to a genocide at the hands of an armed state.

However much you guys arm, you will never and can never arm yourselves to the extent that your military can. Your guns may well protect you from armed robbers or intruders with ill intent. They may even cause any government who chose to commit genocide against any people within the USA some measure of concern and cost. But they wouldn't save you against the world's most advanced and well-funded military. An armed populace is no defence against genocide. It may, theoretically, be a defence against governmental oppression, inasmuch as it may make the cost of success rise too high to be paid. If the government wanted to conduct a war against its own people, and had military or vigilante support for that war, all the underground survival shelters and serried rows of tinned beans won't save them, and nor would hunting rifles, however loosely that term is applied.

Undertoad 07-18-2009 09:51 AM

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Prohibiting it makes genocide possible -- and it's the most efficient way to make genocide possible.
Where would you rather live, smart boy... Britain, where the population doesn't have guns, or Iraq, where they do?

It's a simple question and I expect a direct answer.

Undertoad 07-19-2009 11:14 AM

Smart boy was here and didn't answer... again

Shawnee123 07-19-2009 02:07 PM

He's composing an answer about how stupid we all are. I expect it will take some time. ;)

sugarpop 07-19-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 582482)
He's composing an answer about how stupid we all are. I expect it will take some time. ;)

bwahahahahahahahahaaa!!! :D Good one Shawnee!

Aliantha 07-19-2009 07:13 PM

Poor UG. He's soooooo misunderstood.

Don't you people know he's just trying to help you live a better life for yourselves???!!!

xoxoxoBruce 07-19-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 582277)
Yeah man. It's the fucking pacifists who make the world dangerous.

Pacifists like Neville Chamberlain? He made the world safer? :haha:

xoxoxoBruce 07-19-2009 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 582298)
Where would you rather live, smart boy... Britain, where the population doesn't have guns, or Iraq, where they do?

It's a simple question and I expect a direct answer.

No it's not, a simple question is, would you rather live in North Korea with no guns or the United States with guns?

Urbane Guerrilla 07-19-2009 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 582298)
Where would you rather live, smart boy... Britain, where the population doesn't have guns, or Iraq, where they do?

It's a simple question and I expect a direct answer.

Iraq. Because I am not a sheep, nor am I your strawman. Braver than you, too, I daresay.

Urbane Guerrilla 07-19-2009 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 582513)
Poor UG. He's soooooo misunderstood.

Don't you people know he's just trying to help you live a better life for yourselves???!!!

They don't know it. They can't believe there is a better lifeway than theirs... yet whenever they try to show it's an improvement, they just fail. My way of life adds up to a reproach to their way of life.

They don't, I think, actually misunderstand me. But I do make them acutely, terribly uncomfortable with their lives' choices. Somehow, I can always show where they're messed up. Loud is the ululating BAaaAAAaaaWWWW that comes out.

What should I feel for the people cleaving to distant second- or third-best?

Pacifists don't make the world so dangerous -- they make the body counts so much bigger. No thanks.


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