The Cellar - Mar 22, 2009: EDAR

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And then, if they got into a "who has the worst drivers' license picture" conversation, they would totally win.

I slept in a car behind my bro's house for a week or so when I was a teenager. Not too bad. But I was a teenager. Prolly be rough now.

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 548759)

And then, if they got into a "who has the worst drivers' license picture" conversation, they would totally win.

For example:
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Thank you for the nightmares, Capn.
:headshake

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 548751)

Which bring up a good point... $500 will get you a car, on Craigslist.

Getting it official costs a little more, and it may not actually run for very long, but it's a car and even provides an emergency, though pricey, source of heat.

Plus it may lock and prevent vandals from stealing your stuff.

Well, why don't you just put a hole right through my dreams then?:D What if I can get it in a baby-blue color though?

I think it's a great idea and I think it looks like a great design, and I don't doubt that $500 is remarkably cheap for what is involved..... but I seriously doubt that they are going to last as long as they are built for. Many homeless people are so because they're incapable of taking care of themselves, never mind their possessions. A lot of them need so much more than just a roof. I admire the sentiment, I'm concerned about it's practicality. I feel that at that cost, the charity needs to find some way to encourage them to take good care of it. many homeless are addicts to various different substances. When their need got bad enough, what would prevent them from trading it for a hit, or abandoning in search of a hit and it not being there when they come back? Will the charity also be providing locks? With loseable keys or forgettable combinations? they are so many people who prey on the homeless (including other homeless who are just higher up the pecking order and natural bullies/psychos....) this could just become another thing to beat them with unless there are so many they all get one..... maybe they could add thumbprint ID machines to unlock the wheels. But then what of the homeless lepers?

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Originally Posted by Pie (Post 548764)

Thank you for the nightmares, Capn.
:headshake

's my job. ;)

Sounds just like a ad hoc committee on the issue of the homeless. There is something wrong with every suggestion, so nothing at all gets done.

why fuck around? why not just hook them up with these?

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 548875)

why fuck around? why not just hook them up with these?

or this

well. yes......i should have thought of that

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 548875)

why fuck around? why not just hook them up with these?

Too regressive;

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Does the EDAR enable homelessness by making it more bearable? No, he insists. "Why is the EDAR not regressive?" he said. "Because it is not nearly as good as a shelter bed. There's no pretense it's as good as permanent or temporary brick-and-mortar housing." But it is, he says, "infinitely better than a damp cardboard box."

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 548624)

I think one of the big differences between the EDAR and a Walmart tent is that the EDAR is elevated off the ground. There must be some advantage to not having your ass lying directly on the, in many cases, freezing cold hard ground.

Actually in cold weather lying on the ground is warmer than being elevated above the ground as you can never warm the airspace and cold continues to penetrate above. (experience)

Now lying on wet ground is another story entirely.