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Griff 08-19-2012 08:14 PM

Are you a sympathizer, tw?

Sundae 08-20-2012 04:50 AM

No one would have believed, in the first years of the twenty-first century, that human affairs were being watched from the timeless worlds of space.

Few men even considered the possibility of life on other planets and yet, across the gulf of space, minds immeasurably superior to ours regarded this Earth with envious eyes, and

slowly

and

surely,

they drew their plans against us.

tw 08-20-2012 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae (Post 825216)
they drew their plans against us.

Who are the victims of Unsustainable Consumption?

Griff 08-20-2012 06:50 AM

Won't someone think of the minerals?:mecry:

Ibby 08-21-2012 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae (Post 825216)
No one would have believed, in the first years of the twenty-first century, that human affairs were being watched from the timeless worlds of space.

Few men even considered the possibility of life on other planets and yet, across the gulf of space, minds immeasurably superior to ours regarded this Earth with envious eyes, and

slowly

and

surely,

they drew their plans against us.

I can't ever hear any piece of this phrasing without the epic chords following immediately.


Sundae 08-21-2012 12:18 PM

I can see that album cover from where I sit :)

Ibby 08-23-2012 11:51 PM

My dad has a Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs half-speed master copy of it. it sounds unbelievably good.

Urbane Guerrilla 08-26-2012 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by socrates (Post 24195)
Next the collapse of the USSR has encouraged a dangerous boldness by the US to adopt itself as the champion of the free world, the crusader of righteousness, and saviour of civilisation. In my opinion, it has pounced on a chance to assert itself in strategic positions to meet it's own ends.

Well, Socrates, I'd say it's time for you to ask more Socratic questions than you've been. Your argument sounds precisely like you've been listening to a crew of glib anti-Americans your whole life and you know no better. Don't be any too damn sure you've got any of it right. Get the hell off your island and travel the world for a time and see with your own eyes what's really out there, and not just what a bunch of invidious leftists try and tell you about the oldest and most powerful capitalist outfit on the globe. Europe had to shed mercantilist economic thinking before it ever got round to capitalism, and the United States, experiencing being on the colonial end of mercantilist thinking, jettisoned the whole model in the eighteenth century by means of the musket and fixed bayonet.

We've ended up with the exact kind of place that people break into to partake of. Even with Eire's stout growth over the last twenty years, can you say that's a problem you have? Not to take anything away from your island's charm, music and poetry, but come on. Are they cutting the wire to get in? Floating up on boats and rafts?

Quote:

Closer to home, we have the English across the Irish Sea who are dumping millions of barrels of toxic discharge into our seas because it suits them. Who gives a damn about a tiny island of paddy spud pickers. Really I could'nt see it happening if Sellafield was located in Tijuana. For one the English goverment are so far up the US administrations backside that there brains co-exist in complete harmony.
Secondly the US would shut it down. Find some excuse and take them out.

My argument is far from eloquent and I have no doubt could be better voiced by a more learned debater. . .
I'd say in many regards it's also pretty far from accurate -- again because you stand only at the beginning of wisdom, and not in its full blossom. The Left isn't going to get you there, believe me -- I've seen it, and I've seen its failure.

I'd add that I've never met a decent, likeable or worthy anti-American; the bunch of them seem disreputable creeps with neither honor nor shame.

Undertoad 08-26-2012 05:50 AM

Nice reply to a post from 2002 dumbass.

BigV 08-30-2012 12:49 PM

That's an insult to dumbasses the world over, UT.


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