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Sundae 05-12-2010 01:13 PM

S*I*G*H*

We're now officially in bed with the enemy.
Nick Clegg has agreed to form a coalition with David Cameron.

Tis true, may be the best thing for the country - the Tories are tempered by the LibDems and neither are tainted with the public and media unhappiness with Brown.

Tis true, it's the most powerful position the LibDems could hope for given the first past the post system.

Tis true a hung Parliament is actually MORE representative than any single party forming a Government.

But Cameron is our Prime Minister.
But we are back under Tory rule.
But we're swinging to the right.
But we ARE in bed with the enemy.

At least my liberal mettle is being tested. All I can say in true liberal stylee is that I can put my personal issues aside if it's best for the country.

Oh - as an aside, I'm so glad the Gordon Brown haters are finally silenced. Churchill these days is a hero, not questioned, statesman of the century, greatest Brit ever lived.... Yeah. He was only elected to office once (1951) and that with a minority Government. He presided over a coaltion government due to coalition.

Brown was not Churchill, I'm just saying knee-jerk public opinion does not always stand the test of time.

And also all the right wing press frothing at the mouth that Brown was still in Number 10 the day after the election?! Whaaaa?! Are they really pretending to have no idea how this country works? There was no-one to replace him until after talks were held. We are a country at war. Would they have a man who does not even have enough seats to form a minority goverment moving into number 10 just for the sake of it? At least Americans have a set handover period.

So. I'm not entirely hapy with the outcome.
But I acknowledge it could have been worse.
And as already stated, I do look forward to the reaction of the right wing press who have been demonising Clegg for months...

jinx 05-12-2010 01:45 PM

She said taint. Heh heh...

DanaC 05-12-2010 02:36 PM

[childish] Libs and Cammie, sitting in a treee [/childish]


*grins*

's all good Sundae.

ZenGum 05-13-2010 06:34 AM

I wonder, will this coalition outlast Mrs Cameron's pregnancy?

DanaC 05-13-2010 07:15 AM

Dunno....how long does a human-lizard hybrid take to gestate?

Sundae 05-13-2010 07:42 AM

Watch the new version of V... ;)

DanaC 05-13-2010 08:44 AM

hhahahahahah. That's exactly what i had in mind ;:P

Candy Cam is an alien. Has to be.


@ Sundae: am I the only one who gets a slight frisson every time the news describes Cameron and his cabinet 'getting down to business' Oh yeah. Sexy Con-Libs ftw.

Sundae 05-13-2010 10:20 AM

Eeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww!
I'd watch the Clegg getting it on, but with Cam?!
Enough to turn me homophobic!

DanaC 05-13-2010 10:36 AM

I reckon when the doors are closed all the Lib dems pole dance and the tories stick tenners down their g-strings.

lookout123 05-13-2010 01:17 PM

I chuckle a bit when I think that SG and Dana might be among the more conservative Brits I interact with. On a football board a couple of guys I get along great with for the most part spit venom at the thought of a guy who married into WalMart wealth being an owner of Arsenal FC. They literally feel the club is partially owned by satan because of that evil capitalist. nevermind that they want more money for transfers...

DanaC 05-13-2010 04:00 PM

lol. Neither Sundae or myself would be considered conservative over here.

I soften my politics somewhat whilst online. I can only assume you are socialising with SWP members if they make me look conservative ;P

lookout123 05-13-2010 04:09 PM

i really really try to avoid mixing politics with football so I don't know what they really believe beyond knowing they hyperventilate anytime they think of Stan Kroenke gaining ownership of Arsenal. I don't support a Kroenke take over but that has nothing to do with Walmart - I just like my club to have a multi owner structure.

DanaC 05-13-2010 05:34 PM

Most Brit footy fans would throw a clot at the thought of an American businessman owning their team. I suspect it's that, rather than anti-capitalism :P

lookout123 05-13-2010 06:40 PM

No, no, it really is the Walmart tie in. Obviously they aren't thrilled at the idea of an american, but they say better an american than a russian or a saudi... unless the american has connections to the great satan that is walmart.

DanaC 05-14-2010 05:58 AM

yea. Walmart is pretty hated.

I boycotted Asda stores for several years when Walmart took 'em over ;P

Fucking anti-union employers.


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