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Shawnee123 10-27-2010 12:43 PM

I don't see him as being that far out of context.

piercehawkeye45 10-27-2010 01:21 PM

This is a stupid argument but I was pretty sure when I said "as long as they don't take it too far" that meant I wasn't talking about Nazi Germany when I was writing my post. Obviously when I say "political extremists get shit done" that could mean genocide but have some fucking common sense. I even cleared up my first post's ambiguity in my second post.

This was the work of a couple fucking idiots who should get charged with assault. I disagree with most of the tea party movement but labeling the tea party or even Rand Paul supporters as Brown Shirts is ridiculous. It was an immature emotional outburst not an organized attack.

Shawnee123 10-27-2010 01:26 PM

How many fucking times do I have to repeat what I've said, over and over, in this thread?

Spexx is right, get over yourself. You go on a diabtribe about extremists being the only ones who can effect change, then fall all over yourself talking about how you're not talking about this incident.

Then go start a thread about how only extremists can effect change, and quit shitting all over this one with your wise and calculated remarks that can only come from one so much more wordly and aware than those of us who have said, fifty thousand fucking times "I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE TEA PARTY OR RAND PAUL THE GUY WHO STOMPED ON A WOMAN'S HEAD (and the guy who grabbed her booby) IS AN ABUSER AND THIS WAS A SHIT ACT."

You just can't stop condoning it in your effort to move the attention to your agenda. So yeah, I DO think your thoughts are akin to scary extremism.

Flint 10-27-2010 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 690852)
How many fucking times do I have to repeat what I've said, over and over, in this thread?

Remember, whoever types the most loses the thread.



Problem?

Shawnee123 10-27-2010 01:35 PM

Yeah, I have a problem with your potato chip looking face up there.

Flint 10-27-2010 01:37 PM

You know, that hurts, because that's a photograph of my real face.



My face got stomped on during 9/11 by a cheeseburger in a can on a plane on a treadmill.

Shawnee123 10-27-2010 01:37 PM

Is it supposed to do a trick or something?????

Happy Monkey 10-27-2010 01:51 PM

The stomper wants an apology.

Spexxvet 10-27-2010 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 690851)
Obviously when I say "political extremists get shit done" that could mean genocide but have some fucking common sense.

They are extremists. They have no common sense.

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 690851)
This was the work of a couple fucking idiots who should get charged with assault. I disagree with most of the tea party movement but labeling the tea party or even Rand Paul supporters as Brown Shirts is ridiculous. It was an immature emotional outburst not an organized attack.

How do you know?

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 690859)
Is it supposed to do a trick or something?????

I'll bet it's supposed to be 3-D. See the blueish outline?

glatt 10-27-2010 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 690861)
The stomper wants an apology.

You have to admit, the man has balls. Big ones.

TheMercenary 10-27-2010 09:16 PM

So, when you watch the video....

Do you really think her head was stomped on? and as offensive as the act was do you really think that this was an act of assault? or is this just another attempt to demonize the opposition and score electoral points?

Be honest now.......

Pico and ME 10-27-2010 09:47 PM

Once he put his foot on her shoulder, HE FUCKING PUSHED! In the process his foot moved and her face was forced onto the pavement...notice when she puts her hands to her glasses.

So goddamn yeah its assault...especially since she was already immobilized by the 180lb guy on top of her.

He made a very poor decision with that foot and its going to haunt him for a long long time.

And you are a total dick, and proved it once and for all, by trying to give this incident a pass.

Merc, you know that had this been done to a tea partier all hell would have broken loose. YOU KNOW THAT.

xoxoxoBruce 10-28-2010 12:32 AM

Of course it's assault, as soon as he touched her. :eyebrow:

Shawnee123 10-28-2010 07:23 AM

http://bluewavenews.com/blog/2010/10...n-debate-site/

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Now, just in case there’s still any doubt, let me be excruciatingly clear: This is what happens when the puppetmasters of a “grassroots” political movement tacitly encourage the belief that violence is a valid solution to political disagreements. It’s what happens when you tell your so-called “leaderless” minions that they are the heirs to the “true” American spirit, that those who oppose them ideologically are “unAmerican” and killing the America they grew up in. It’s what happens when you plant the idea that any common yokel with an oversized ego is qualified to run for the U.S. Senate, when you allow those “qualified” candidates to accuse their opponents of violating the Constitution and bankrupting your grandchildren and, oh yes, suggesting that if their movement doesn’t prevail, they might take matters into their own hands and overthrow the government.

This is what the “tea party movement” has wrought – a political process that is two parts Barnum & Bailey, one part half-baked militia. Those people had no business laying a finger on Lauren Valle; she was doing nothing more than exercising the same right to free speech as they were doing. But committing assault and illegally physically restraining her just wasn’t enough for the guy in the ball cap – no, that didn’t send enough of a message. It didn’t put the liberal bitch in her place. So he made sure that he drove home his point with his sneaker, stomping on her neck and head. It looked to me that he was prepared to continue, possibly go even further, had not another bystander persuaded him to stop.
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I read that she has a concussion and a shoulder injury.

But I'm just trying to demonize the opposition. :headshake

Undertoad 10-28-2010 09:05 AM

No Shaw you don't get to smear an entire political movement based on this one guy's actions.

For fuck's sake.

I mean, what if it turns out that the woman in question was a paid political operative, wearing a disguise and rushing the candidate's car several times trying to "give him something", and the guys who tackled her were trying to get the police's attention about her for a long time?


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