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DanaC 06-02-2011 04:12 AM

Yes, that was one attack on a town.

glatt 06-02-2011 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 737746)
I can't find a definition for the threshold for massacre.

As a point of reference, the Boston Massacre was when the Redcoats killed 5 colonists. That was enough to be called a massacre in America, but the British thought it was a riot.

infinite monkey 06-02-2011 07:36 AM

They still call it the Kent State Massacre. 4 people.

So I'm not sure where the line between "true massacre" and "just some killins'" is. ;)

('true massacre' is a registered trademark of TheMercenary.)

classicman 06-02-2011 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 737809)
('true massacre' is a registered trademark of TheMercenary.)

Shit! does that mean we have to send him royalties every time we use that term? :rolleyes:

infinite monkey 06-02-2011 07:45 AM

Yep! Crud. Now I owe.

Send me a bill. :bolt:

classicman 06-02-2011 07:48 AM

@ Dana and Zen -

I use a multitude of news sources... I really haven't been seeing that much in the press.
It seems like a 30 sec blip here and there on occasion. not exactly a top news story like
Wiener's wiener, Sara Palin's (waste of air/space/time/ bus tour or Ahhhnold's ugly mistress.

Fair&Balanced 06-02-2011 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 737809)
They still call it the Kent State Massacre. 4 people.

So I'm not sure where the line between "true massacre" and "just some killins'" is. ;)

('true massacre' is a registered trademark of TheMercenary.)

But they don't count being as they were drug induced, anti-American, socialist agitators. :eek:

And probably zero-liability voters as well.

TheMercenary 06-02-2011 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 737750)
Umm...I was listening to and watching the news reports of the massacres in Rwanda pretty much as they were happening. There was lots of news coverage.


[eta] Just saw on tonight's news an estimated 40 people have been massacred by government troops in Syria.

And what did you read about the follow on massacres in the Congo? Did that make the news too?

TheMercenary 06-02-2011 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 737809)
They still call it the Kent State Massacre. 4 people.

So I'm not sure where the line between "true massacre" and "just some killins'" is. ;)

('true massacre' is a registered trademark of TheMercenary.)

Well that would be a bit of a reach. But the killing of a few protesters everyday in the current unrest of the Middle East could hardly be compared to what happened to the Jews in WWll, the Cambodians in the Killing Fields, or the 100,000 people hacked to death in 100 days in Rawanda, hell, it can't even come close to what happened in Serbia as the UN sat on their asses as men, women and children were slaughtered. And how about the events in Iraq where Saddam gassed the Kurds?!?!? or how about the Armenians, if you want to go back a bit further. Where was the press???? No press, but the events still happened....None of that compares to anything that has happened anywhere in the current unrest in the Middle East. Nothing. Yea, so far, there have been no "true massacres"... well unless you have something else to put up.

Fair&Balanced 06-02-2011 10:41 PM

The fact that you are evidently so consumed with proving me wrong over what is simply a matter of semantics (in this post) rather than focusing on the issue of the Arab spring uprisings is really quite amusing.

Meaningless, but amusing nonetheless. :D

TheMercenary 06-02-2011 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced (Post 738028)
The fact that you are evidently so consumed with proving me wrong over what is simply a matter of semantics( in this post) rather than focusing on the issue of the Arab spring uprisings is really quite amusing.

Meaningless, but amusing nonetheless. :D

That is silly. You have been proven to have lied and you pass it off as a matter of "semantics".... sorry Refulx, that dog won't hunt.

Fair&Balanced 06-02-2011 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 738029)
That is silly. You have been proven to have lied and you pass it off as a matter of "semantics".... sorry Refulx, that dog won't hunt.

Just another outbreak of Mercenary Madness to hit a discussion. Fortunately, it is not contagious and reasonable people are immune to it. ;)

TheMercenary 06-02-2011 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced (Post 738031)
Just another outbreak of Mercenary Madness to hit a discussion. Fortunately, it is not contagious and reasonable people are immune to it. ;)

Cool. Compare and Contrast Libya and Syria. How's that working out fer ya? Cite and explain... Thanks.

Fair&Balanced 06-02-2011 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 738034)
Cool. Compare and Contrast Libya and Syria. How's that working out fer ya? Cite and explain... Thanks.

I have explained that several times.

There was a UN mandate for military action in Libya along with support of the Arab League. The UN wont even adopt a resolution condemning Syria, because Russia and China will veto it and the Arab League would oppose any resolution or action as well.

Libya has no allies among the other Arab powers. Syria has Iran.

A military action against Syria could have backlash against Israel, led by Hezballah and Hamas, both under the Syrian/Iranian influence.

A simple understanding of the geopolitics of the region.

TheMercenary 06-02-2011 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced (Post 738036)
I have explained that several times.

There was a UN mandate for military action in Libya along with support of the Arab League.

So far failed. Supported by a well known terrorist organization.

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The UN wont even adopt a resolution condemning Syria, because Russia and China will veto it and the Arab League would oppose any resolution or action as well.
Citation please. Proves how inept the UN is as an organization we should stop throwing taxpayer dollars into......

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Libya has no allies among the other Arab powers. Syria has Iran.
citation please.

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A military action against Syria could have backlash against Israel, led by Hezballah and Hamas, both under the Syrian/Iranian influence.
Citation?


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