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I thought (and Clod or Flint can correct me here) that as part of Texas' statehood agreement lo those many years ago succession was always a possibility for them. They were so big and their hats, my god! were even bigger; I thought it was written into the Texas constitution of statehood or whatever the hell you call it that they COULD succeed anytime they wanted.

Texas, we hardly knew ye.

also, Key West tried to succeed but the stoners couldn't get it together to do it. They called themselves the Conch Republic. They were sick of cruise ships and their ilk walking their streets.

Secession and secede.

Sorry. It's one of my bugbears:P

oh, thanks. I could't bother to google. I WAS an Englihs major ya know. (but it was a state school...so....)

Duh.

The republican war on women? What about the republican war *by* women?

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Arizona wife injures husband with car for failing to vote, allowing Obama to win: cops

An Arizona woman was so enraged over her husband’s failure to vote in last week’s presidential race — essentially blaming him for President Obama’s re-election — that cops claim she mowed him down with her car.

Holly Solomon, 28, was cuffed after allegedly injuring her husband, Daniel Solomon, 36, with her Jeep in a Gilbert parking lot Saturday morning, the Arizona Republic reported Monday.

Daniel Solomon told investigators that his wife “just hated Obama,” according to local ABC affiliate KNXV.

A Gilbert police spokesman said she “believed her family was going to have hardship” under a second Obama term. Although GOP challenger Mitt Romney failed to win key swing states in the election, he still earned Arizona’s 11 electoral votes.

And even if Daniel Solomon had voted for Romney or any other candidate besides Obama, it wouldn't have made a difference — a fact that apparently didn't matter to Holly Solomon.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...#ixzz2C7PPVjzr

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The tension between the profit- and ratings-driven right — call them entertainment-based conservatives — and conservatives focused on ideas (the thinkers) and winning (the operatives) has never been more evident.…

And the entertainers’ power isn’t just with gullible grass-roots activists who are likely to believe whatever nefarious rumor about Obama is forwarded to them in an e-mail chain — it’s with donors, too.

I like this observation, right on target. I believe that these two groups are not mutually exclusive and when these two motives are in conflict in a given speaker, it seems the profit and ratings always takes precedence.

now there are 23 states petitioning. texas has far exceded the necessary 25,000 signatures and louisiana is getting close. another petition has been submited that any person signing a petition to secede would be stripped of their citizenship and exiled

America - love it or leave it! :rolleyes:

And in the "Don't it turn my brown eyes blue" department: If Texas wants out, they'd better git while the gitting's good. Demographic studies predict that Texas will become a Blue State by 2024 if not sooner due to increases in the Latino population there.

Finally, it would appear that Southerners still cherish the thought that "The South will rise again." States that were once a part of the Confederacy are in the lead when it comes to the numbers of signatures on the various petitions to secede from the Union.

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Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 838805)

I'm on the fence with this one. On one hand it's a free speech issue. On the other hand signing a petition to secede is pretty close to renouncing one's citizenship.

Of course, maybe all of these guys would be happier playing 'great white warlord' in a compound in Somalia. Stockpiling AK-47s and tons of ammo is legal there, or at least ignored by a weak government.

On the downside, their president would really be a liberal black Muslim.:cool:

I've always wondered... if Texas does leave the US and become its own entity, how would they stop Mexico from invading and retaking land they once had up through 1836? Does Texas have an army? They won't be able to use the US army, oh no. They'd have to ask for assistance and then there would be 'occupation' to make sure Mexico stays where Mexico is. Or would they request we 'nation build' so they can take care of themselves, because they couldn't when they left the union in the first place?

Or would they allow the current US bases to stay and enjoy by-proxy US protection without actually being part of the country?

And I know they have oil and cattle and some farms there, but what else would their GDP be based on? Tourism? Could US citizens get in on a driver's license or would passport be needed? Would they even have open borders?

This popped up on my Facebook feed, and, although I'm pretty sure I've read it before, it sort of fits...right about now.

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Dear Red States:

We're ticked off at your Neanderthal attitudes and politics and we've decided we're leaving.

We in New York intend to form our own country and we're taking the other Blue States with us.

In case you aren't aware that includes California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, Maryland and the rest of the Northeast.

We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation and especially to the people of the new country of The Enlightened States of America (E.S.A).

To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.

We get stem cell research and the best beaches.

We get Andrew Cuomo and Elizabeth Warren. You get Bobby Jindal, Mitch Mcconnell, and Todd Akin.

We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Opryland.

We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.

We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss.

We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs.

You get Alabama.

We get two-thirds of the tax revenue. You get to make the red states pay their fair share.

Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms.

With the Blue States in hand we will have firm control of 80% of the country's fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92% of the nation's fresh fruit, 95% of America's quality wines (you can serve French wines at state dinners) 90% of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the US low sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools, plus Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.

With the Red States you will have to cope with 88% of all obese Americans and their projected health care costs, 92% of all US mosquitoes, nearly 100% of the tornadoes, 90% of the hurricanes, 99% of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100% of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.

We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.

38% of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44% say that evolution is only a theory, 53% say that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61% of you crazy bastards believe you are people with higher morals than the rest of the planet.

We're taking the good weed too. You can have that crap they grow in Mexico.

Sincerely,

Citizen of the Enlightened States of America

Now there are petitions in all 50 states. Texas and Louisiana have the required number of signatures that will force the Executive Branch to respond.

How will the Enlightened States pay for all of their social welfare programs? A higher percentage of people in Red States pay taxes. Somebody will have to pay for all those free cell phones.

Oh, did I mention we will take the majority of nuclear missles with us?

Actually, no. The red states have a higher percentage of people using government aid than the blue states do.

Moochers

And the highest tax producing states are actually blue.

Subsidizing...

Oh, and those cell phones? That plan was begun back in 1996 and was not a cell phone, but a land line. The landline has since been updated to cellular for obvious reasons.

Obama Phone

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Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 838895)

Now there are petitions in all 50 states. Texas and Louisiana have the required number of signatures that will force the Executive Branch to respond.

By laughing? What would they do?

"Force the Executive branch to respond" isn't much. Just ask the guys who "forced" them to respond to a weed decriminalization petition.

And that was a serious issue.

I'll bet Cambodia will let them in.