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Gravdigr 04-04-2017 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 985978)
...what is the 'purpose' of The Donald?


DanaC 04-04-2017 06:35 PM

You know - a couple of days before you posted this thread - well a few times really over the past couple of weeks - I was thinking about Colbert's monologues recently.

I have found most of them funny, but I also think that, underneath the more lighthearted, or childish elements (drawing dicks on the board and pokes about little hands) there's a real darkness to this humour.

Happy Monkey 04-04-2017 08:49 PM

I think that's to be expected. He's far more a Letterman than a Leno.

xoxoxoBruce 04-05-2017 12:47 AM

It's necessary...


Griff 04-05-2017 07:42 AM

Here's a surprise, as completely unwatchable as I find his monologue right now, his Nielsen Ratings put him at number 1 for late night. I guess if Trump is messing with your sleep pattern maybe you do get catharsis from Colbert?

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...t-ratings.html

As far as the darkness of the humor goes, there is real anger there but I can't decipher if the rage is that of a Democratic team player who can't Clinton or a patriot who is actually concerned about our institutions and people? I hope its the latter. I guess his bubble is under assault. My bubble took another hit yesterday when the Post reported that Eric Prince (evil incarnate) may be the Trump Putin go between and someone close to me spent his morning on a Clinton rant right out of Trumps tweets. Folks are doubling down on protecting their bubbles. Shit gonna pop.

henry quirk 04-05-2017 09:24 AM

"Shit gonna pop."

I wish it would...the U.S. could use a nice, clarifying, civil war right now.

Instead, it's gonna be the same old, same old.


As for mocking the prez (or congress, or the supremes, or govs, or...): meh...if you got the time and interest, sure...kinda just singin' to yourself in the shower, though.

glatt 04-05-2017 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by henry quirk (Post 986104)
I wish it would...the U.S. could use a nice, clarifying, civil war right now.

Wars. Zombie Apocalypses. Epidemics.

Everyone always assumes they are going to be among the survivors. Odds are, you'll catch a bullet in a civil war, Henry. Or more likely, starve.

henry quirk 04-05-2017 10:30 AM

Moot.

As I say: it's gonna be same old, same old

tw 04-05-2017 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry quirk (Post 986104)
...the U.S. could use a nice, clarifying, civil right war now.

Figures the right would want to start another war. Even among themselves. So extreme that even a right wing propaganda tool, Fox News, is at war with itself - its president and on screen personalities.

War is good. It even made George Jr popular. And the Chinese rich.

DanaC 04-05-2017 04:37 PM

I think Louis said it best:


DanaC 04-05-2017 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff (Post 986095)

As far as the darkness of the humor goes, there is real anger there but I can't decipher if the rage is that of a Democratic team player who can't Clinton or a patriot who is actually concerned about our institutions and people? I hope its the latter. I guess his bubble is under assault. My bubble took another hit yesterday when the Post reported that Eric Prince (evil incarnate) may be the Trump Putin go between and someone close to me spent his morning on a Clinton rant right out of Trumps tweets. Folks are doubling down on protecting their bubbles. Shit gonna pop.

I get the distinct impression, given the focus of the humour, and the times when Colbert's anger is most apparent (you can kind of see a glint of it in his eyes at times) that it is the latter.

The way I see it, whoever is in the top job is going to mocked. The tenor and tone of that mockery depends on a couple of factors: which side won is one of them - a liberal or left leaning comedian may feel more anger at the policies and approach of a right leaning or right wing president and is also likely to have felt a sense of loss or disappointment when their preferred candidate lost.

But the other factor is how well or badly that president is doing in office, and that transcends the party political to a degree. The anger that seems to be coming through with Trump reminds me a little of the anger that came through with George W. during times when much of the country was feeling lied to and at times when it seemed the president himself was being led by his team. But even then, with the Daily Show, and even later with Colbert, much of the focus was on how all that was covered by Fox, and much of the humour was based on the machinations of Bush's cabal, with occasional swipes at his dumb hick persona.

With Trump and his administration the focus is on rank incompetence at almost all levels, a total and utter disregard for the truth and the absolute lack of respect shown by Trump for the office he now occupies.

Clodfobble 04-05-2017 09:42 PM

Little known fact, Colbert is actually a conservative. A pretty moderate one, but he's talked in interviews about some pretty fiscally conservative stuff. He's genuinely refused to do bits mocking the Pope before.

xoxoxoBruce 04-05-2017 11:15 PM

He's a Sunday school teacher.

henry quirk 04-06-2017 09:15 AM

right here seems as good a place as any to do this...
 
The ten year (re)taught me a valuable lesson last night, that being, one doesn't have to be a dick to hold, assert, and defend a view.

More so than many, I can be a real dick.

My apologies to all I've been dickish to (which, I guess, is pretty much anyone and everyone reading this).

I can be a hard pill to swallow in the best of circumstances, when I'm tryin' to be nice, so, when I'm not tryin', well...as I say, my apologies to any and all.

BigV 04-06-2017 09:28 AM

Hi henry.

Kids are an everlasting source of surprise, are they not?


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