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wolf 01-09-2005 07:54 PM

There are several sets of pictures that everyone has been sending me lately that I have to send back with a link to a snopes article ...

They are still cool pictures, though.

footfootfoot 01-11-2005 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble
That's not a tidal wave, that's just the world's biggest pile of loose-fill attic insulation. And those people are laughing because the people who got buried underneath it are going to itch from fiberglass cuts for days.

FACTOID:
dousing yourself with baby powder prior to fiberglassing will clog your pores so the fiberglass doesn't get in. Then wash with COOL, NOT HOT, water and soap.

I always tell that to the high school kids before tehy fiberglass for me. I won't touch the stuff :biggrin:

Undertoad 01-12-2005 01:29 PM

Followup: another guy lived out at sea even longer! He managed by finding a raft:

http://cellar.org/2004/tsunamiraft.jpg

In this photo released by the Arab-based container vessel Al Yamamah, a raft carrying tsunami survivor, Indonesian Ari Afrizal, drifts on the sea Sunday, Jan. 9, 2005 before being rescued and brought to the West Port, outskirts of Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Ari, 21, says he drifted on the Indian Ocean for two weeks, living on coconuts that he pried open with his teeth while floating on pieces of wood, then a broken boat, and finally a fishing raft.

CharlieG 01-12-2005 02:23 PM

They Missed when he found the Contaniner ship - Keep him away from the USS Lincoln - he might upgrade again!

OnyxCougar 01-16-2005 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Torrere
I believe that OC's definition of "creating information" is in the same class as Athena springing fully formed from the head of Zeus. From the labyrinth I've explored on AiG [the wellspring of her belief] it looks like she would not accept the 'creation of information' unless the complete set of genes for a modern human brain were inserted into the genome of a squid, by the hand of God.

The bottom line is that there are MANY functions of the human body that simply don't work without corresponding parts. Evolution would require all those parts to evolve at exactly the same time to function. This is highly improbable at best, if you buy into the "duplication" theory of "adding information."

And you still haven't explained how non life became life.

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From the labyrinth I've explored on AiG [the wellspring of her belief] it looks like she would not accept
Many of the theories I have posted are from AiG because they are one of a very few sites that do not compromise (IE Hugh Ross) their belief in biblical inerrancy just to fit man's fallible ideas. However, although I do rely heavily on the data, research and scientists that post on AiG, it is NOT the "wellspring of [my] belief".

Please do not try to speak for me, or in this case, assert where my beliefs spring from. You are not qualified to do so. I am perfectly capable of speaking for myself.

Happy Monkey 01-17-2005 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by OnyxCougar
The bottom line is that there are MANY functions of the human body that simply don't work without corresponding parts. Evolution would require all those parts to evolve at exactly the same time to function.

No it wouldn't. The current state of the human body is what it looks like after the corresponding parts have been working together for a long time. They haven't needed to work alone for long enough that they no longer can. And their function, when they worked alone, may not have been quite what their current function is.

capnhowdy 01-17-2005 04:40 PM

quote:"Followup: another guy lived out at sea even longer! He managed by finding a raft:" ( Undertoad)

What an unbelievably lucky person.
What are the odds of being hit by a tsunami, surviving that, and just when you need it most, you "find" a raft. Wow........................

Troubleshooter 01-17-2005 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by capnhowdy
What are the odds of being hit by a tsunami, surviving that, and just when you need it most, you "find" a raft. Wow........................

Apparently good enough that it happened.

Say it with me now: "Luck is just function chance."

xoxoxoBruce 01-17-2005 08:17 PM

Considering the thousands that didn't find a raft I'd say the odds are pretty slim. :biggrin:

capnhowdy 01-17-2005 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Troubleshooter
Apparently good enough that it happened.

Say it with me now: "Luck is just function chance."


Ideally correct. "Luck is just function chance." [/quote]
The one who found the raft was "lucky". In a good way.

The 150,000 others that didn't- well they were "lucky" , too.........
.........in a bad way.
IMHO:
LUCK: what happens to you.
Luck should be (if it isn't) a slang word, which is to say , it could change it's definition from mind to mind; culture to culture.
Actually the term should, in all logical angles, be replaced with fate, or destiny.
One has no control as to the results of some situations, while others we can & do decide. The ones we can alter are in no way connected with luck. The ones we can....... well term it yourself. "Luck" works for me.
It's kind of like a global term.
Myself; I'm probably the unluckiest lucky sumbitch on this planet.
Luck can be bad. It can be good. In the end, it is all still "luck".
:juggle:

404Error 01-17-2005 10:46 PM

My father always used to say, "If it wasn't for bad luck I wouldn't have any luck at all." ;)

Capn, maybe the word you're looking for is 'lot', as in 'your lot in life'.

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lot, n ...3: your overall circumstances or condition in life (including everything that happens to you); "whatever my fortune may be"; "deserved a better fate"; "has a happy lot"; "the luck of the Irish"; "a victim of circumstances"; "success that was her portion" [syn: fortune, destiny, fate, luck, circumstances, portion]


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