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ZenGum 01-08-2012 11:31 PM

Bad link? Why I'll beat the living crap out of it until it does work!


See?

classicman 01-09-2012 12:49 AM

‘Human Barbie’ Gives 7-Year-Old Daughter Liposuction Voucher
Quote:

The UK’s self-proclaimed “Human Barbie” gave her 7-year-old daughter an unusual stocking stuffer this Christmas: a £7,000 voucher for liposuction. The holiday gift was a follow-up to Poppy’s most recent birthday present from her mum: A £6,000 voucher for breast augmentation.

‘She asks for surgery all the time. She wants to look good and lipo is one of those procedures that will always come in handy,” 51-year-old Sarah Burge told the UK’s Daily Mail. “I see these vouchers as investing in her future, like saving money for her education.”

Last year Burge, who says she taught her daughter how to pole dance when the girl was 6, defended giving her daughter a breast augmentation voucher when she told Closer Magazine, “Poppy begged me for a boob job, so I gave her the voucher so she can have it after she’s 16, when it’s legal. If she develops naturally big boobs, she can have something else done with it.”
ABC

GunMaster357 01-09-2012 04:17 PM

She's spending quite big figures on her own figure. I wonder where she got the money.

Stupid husband?

Aliantha 01-09-2012 04:22 PM

I've been thinking that by the end of this year I might need cosmetic surgery for all the spare skin I'm going to have, but i don't think I'll be spending even six thousand pounds on it. lol There's no way I could justify it for one thing.

ZenGum 01-09-2012 06:31 PM

Can she use the voucher for the counselling for her inevitable body-image disorders?

Not the very worst parent in the world, but damn, she's trying.

Sundae 01-10-2012 03:28 PM

Gun, whatever else you lay at her door, the woman pays her own way.
She works as a referral agent for plastic surgery, and on any slow news day she knows she can get her name and face in the paper. She's a self-promotor of course. But it's always the right-wing reactionary press that feature her and encourage her.

Whether this is as bad or worse than the purported gifts is open to discussion.
Many D-list celebs use their children to make news.

There are plenty of worse off children out there. She is growing up in her mother's skewed world, but it's a world many women understand.

She's not being starved, beaten, sexually abused, kept away from school or exposed to drugs/ alcohol/ prostitution. I'm not comparing like for like, I'm just saying as a way of preparing a child to exist in the outside world, she's not really warping her. Better she thinks perfect boobs will make her popular than that Daddies can hit Mummies when they're drunk.

I don't support her, I've just shifted my moral balance a little since meeting children who face problems at home. And I work in a generally affluent area.

The ideal is educated children with a safe home life and a positive self image.
And yummy healthy snacks for all and parent(s) that tuck you in at night and read you stories.

DanaC 01-10-2012 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae (Post 786570)
. Better she thinks perfect boobs will make her popular than that Daddies can hit Mummies when they're drunk.

.

Oh nicely put.


[eta] Especially given perfect boobs will probably make her popular...

classicman 01-10-2012 03:50 PM

The mother is a self serving attention-whore and she is teaching her daughter to be the same way.
This has nothing to do with daddy hitting mommy.

Sundae 01-10-2012 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 786584)
The mother is a self serving attention-whore and she is teaching her daughter to be the same way.
This has nothing to do with daddy hitting mommy.

Children learn from their parent(s)/ primary carers.
A girl brought up to believe image is everything still has a better start in life than many children.

It's not ideal. It's certainly not my ideal.
But it's not abuse.

infinite monkey 01-10-2012 03:56 PM

I think she's promoting self-esteem. That woman is FUGLY and thinks all the work has made her BEEYOOTEEFUL.

Maybe her daughter won't mind being ugly too. :right:

classicman 01-10-2012 04:14 PM

Sometimes I hate you IM, mostly right now because I totally agree with you.

infinite monkey 01-10-2012 05:23 PM

pssst, don't tell anyone!

ZenGum 01-10-2012 06:02 PM

That's it. 2012, dogs and cats, living together, Classic and Infi agreeing ... we're doomed, I tell ya, doooooomed!

classicman 01-10-2012 08:36 PM

Look Zen, I'm just trying to keep this up for another 11 months and 11 days.

footfootfoot 01-10-2012 11:31 PM

two of the four posters of the apocalypse...

ZenGum 01-11-2012 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 786670)
two of the four posters of the apocalypse...

Trolling Newb
Flame war
Apostrophe's
Blue screen of death

Pete Zicato 01-11-2012 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 786670)
four posters of the apocalypse...

Beds of death?

footfootfoot 01-11-2012 09:18 AM

Death Bed 2000

classicman 01-11-2012 09:03 PM

Arizona Wants to Buy Back State Capitol It Inexplicably Sold
 
Totally WTF, but I guess it could have gone in politics as well ...

Quote:

State governments have taken a number of different steps to balance their books in recent years. Texas Gov. Rick Perry (remember him?) proposed a new tax on strip clubs, for example, and a Utah state rep. suggested saving $60 million per year by abolishing the 12th grade. But no proposal struck as much metaphorical gold as Arizona's decision to sell off the state capitol (and a whole bunch of other state properties, such as maximum security prisons) for $735 million in 2009. Republican Gov. Jan Brewer signed off on the deal, and the state now leases the House and Senate chambers from a private real estate company at a considerable long-term cost.

But now, presumably still a little embarrassed by the whole episode, presented with the unfamiliar feeling of cash on hand, and rapidly approaching the state's 100th birthday, Brewer wants the Arizona capitol back in the hands of Arizonans. Here's the Yuma Sun:

The move will cost the state $105 million out of its current budget surplus. Brewer press aide Matthew Benson said the state has the cash.

Benson acknowledged the state actually got only $81 million for the state House, the Senate and the nine-story executive tower that includes Brewer's office when it negotiated a "sale-leaseback" arrangement in 2010...

"Most of our Capitol complex, including the building we gather in today, is not ours,'' Brewer said in her State of the State speech delivered in the House building. "So ... to make all of our Capitol truly ours once again, I'm asking that you send me a bill by Statehood Day that allows me to buy back the Capitol.''
The rest of the story on Mother Jones

footfootfoot 01-11-2012 09:35 PM

Abolish the 12th grade! And what, have them go directly from 11th to 13th grade? That sounds nuts.

classicman 01-11-2012 09:43 PM

Pa. Man Jailed for Having Sex With Horses, Cow - Again

Quote:

A Pennsylvania man who admitted having sex with 10 horses and a cow
must spend a weekend in jail after having his probation revoked because he told
a counselor he'd done it again.

Prosecutors say 44-year-old Paul Ganter was nearly finished with court supervision
when he was ordered Tuesday by a Columbia County judge to serve time instead.

Ganter was sentenced to a year of probation last January when he pleaded guilty
to disorderly conduct. The Press Enterprise of Bloomsburg reports Ganter was
charged after having sex with the animals and filming some of the activity at a
farm in Main Township.

Gravdigr 01-14-2012 05:56 AM

Quote:

...having sex with 10 horses and a cow...
Slut.

ZenGum 01-14-2012 06:36 AM

Yer allowed ta kill 'em and eat em, yer allowed to rope 'em and throw 'em, yer allowed ta brand 'em with hot iron, yer allowed to cut their horns and their balls off, but yer not allowed to stick yer dick in 'em. Cause that would be animal cruelty, right?

Scriveyn 01-14-2012 06:51 AM

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... the four posters of the apocalypse...

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footfootfoot 01-14-2012 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scriveyn (Post 787901)

"It's half full."
"It's half empty."
"It's twice as big as it needs to be."
"Make up your minds, I'm dyin' here."

GunMaster357 01-14-2012 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 786934)
Pa. Man Jailed for Having Sex With Horses, Cow - Again

Did he get them off or did he rape them?

The former should be considered as deep petting (pun intended) while the latter is just animal cruelty.

As an animal lover, he should ask PETA to vouch for him.

Rhianne 01-14-2012 06:31 PM

Check what the 'E' in PETA stands for.

Gravdigr 01-15-2012 11:57 AM

Edible?

footfootfoot 01-15-2012 11:59 AM

People Eating Tasty Animals

Gravdigr 01-15-2012 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 787895)
...but yer not allowed to stick yer dick in 'em. Cause that would be animal cruelty, right?

Like throwing a hotdog down a hallway.

Like opening a window and fucking the world.

Like a mote in a moat.

That's all I got.

Sundae 01-15-2012 03:00 PM

Sausage up the High Street
Sausage in a Cathedral

Gravdigr 04-10-2012 03:11 PM

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Laughed so loud I woke up the cat. He was in the bedroom, I'm in the living room. Really.

Dude has his dangly bits damn near torn from his body. Where do they take him?

Ball Memorial Hospital of course.

:lol2:

via The Smoking Gun

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dmg1969 04-11-2012 11:27 AM

Damn. I guess it is true what they say about a woman scorned! I have a question though. I seriously doubt if she could done that type of damage through clothes. That leads me to believe that he MAY have been "working at his computer" in a less than fully clothed manner. The article does not specify.

infinite monkey 04-11-2012 11:28 AM

Correction: that's Ball Me Morial Hospital. That's what the sign says.

classicman 04-11-2012 06:37 PM

Ball'Me Mor'ial Hos'pit'al.

Gravdigr 04-12-2012 01:05 PM

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Okay, this is a WTF news item, and it's not a WTF news item.

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Sure, you can't just go door to door handing out retired wardogs. But, just kill 'em? That seems extremely callous, especially when you take into account what these dogs did. No telling the lives that were saved by these dogs. No telling the things these dogs did for their handlers. If you use such a noble animal in such a way, the least you can do is let the poor thing live out his life. They should keep the dogs up for the rest of their lives.

I hope whoever had the final sayso on killing these dogs, lives a long, healthy, prosperous life. And when he/she does die, hopefully in their sleep, at 100+ yrs of age, I hope they get to heaven.

To find that God is a retired wardog.

:mad:


Quote:

A concerned reader has created a petition to urge the British government to reconsider the euthanization of war dogs. Should you wish to sign it, you may do so here:

Ministry of Defense and David Cameron: Stop the killing of War Dogs

Gravdigr 04-12-2012 01:09 PM

If fighting pit bulls can be rehab'd (and, no, not all of them can be), I'd be willing to bet that the majority of these dogs wouldn't have to be killed.

They are trained to follow commands , after all.

glatt 04-12-2012 01:13 PM

I don't know anything about training dogs, but I wouldn't want a dog that was trained to attack people to be living next door.

Maybe they could put them on a farm somewhere. With a tall fence. Patrol a base or something.

"Smithers, release the hounds."

Sundae 04-12-2012 01:19 PM

I'm with Glatt here.
But if everyone signing the petition was willing to pay The Dog's Trust to support a war dog for life, then they could work out a way to stop this happening.

DanaC 04-12-2012 01:27 PM

Also have to take into account that some of these dogs will be suffering from post traumatic stress. Not for a moment suggesting that dogs with pts can't be rehabilitated, but if it is manifesting in ways that make the dog dangerous and unapproachable, then adds further complications to an already fraught situation. Not to mention the suffering of the animal in the meantime.

I'd be interested to know how many have been rehoused. The dogs who've been put down may represent the most damaged and difficult cases. Given the nature of their work, that's likely to be quite a high proportion I'd imagine.

Gravdigr 04-12-2012 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 806105)
With a tall fence. Patrol a base or something.

That's the sort of thing I was talking about. I wasn't suggesting they keep the retired wardogs down at the local daycare, or kindergarten playground.

Somewhere appropriate.

Also, people's taxes paid for these dogs and their training. The allocations should include providing for them after they've "served their usefulness".

Don't most of these type dogs actually have a rank? I know most police dogs do. They're treated as soldiers, while they're "useful", and like garbage, to be thrown away, when they're used up.

This has bothered me way more than I thought it would.

Sundae 04-12-2012 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 806124)
Also, people's taxes paid for these dogs and their training. The allocations should include providing for them after they've "served their usefulness".

Hang on, I thought all Americans were anti-tax to the extent that they don't even want to pay to educate other people's children?
But English tax-payers should pay for pensions for dogs?

ETA that was s'posed to be a joke but came off xenophobic and a bit nasty, sorry.

Gravdigr 04-12-2012 03:03 PM

But we're also the people who donate thousands to repair anonymous broken doggehs. I would like to believe that this (the wardog problem) doesn't happen here, but, I'm sure we do the same thing.

Sadly enough.

DanaC 04-12-2012 05:14 PM

We donate ridiculous amounts to animal charities in the UK.

Rhianne 04-12-2012 05:39 PM

There's a shortage of donkeys.

They're a real money-spinner.

People are so keen to hand over cash to 'save' the cute little things that groups/charities/whatever are trying to import them and paying over the odds for any available. Some owners are getting several 'wanna sell your donkey' calls every week from these folk.

I like animals (well, most of them) but I wouldn't hand a penny over to 'save' one while there are still humans in the world going hungry.

DanaC 04-12-2012 05:49 PM

Oh, I will. But I also give to human charitiies.

The two are very much linked to me.

ZenGum 04-12-2012 06:38 PM

IMHO, the first priority is that the VA pay for Big Sarge's goddam meds like they should, and fix Buster's eyes properly.*

I suspect that quite a few of these dogs could work as watchdogs and guard dogs, but maybe some are too old or otherwise physically or mentally not up to it. Some kind of comfortable retirement seems appropriate, but even then, all dogs come to an end and often the vet's needle is in fact the kindest way to go. We need more details about the condition of each dog. Were they actually old and sick, or were they just inconvenient?


*Yeah, I know, different country, but I'll assume the Brit system has much the same issues as the VA, and the US has dogs in much the same situation.

Clodfobble 04-13-2012 10:04 PM

I'm not understanding the state of these dogs, I guess. They're trained animals. We have to assume very well-trained. Why would the military allow anything but very-well-trained dogs near our soldiers? So why is it they magically turn into monsters when they come back from overseas? I mean, sure, I can see the possibility of PTSD, and maybe you don't want to be a stranger walking onto their home property at night... but aren't police dogs trained in a similar fashion? Surely police departments across the country could find a use for a free, military-trained animal.

Sundae 04-14-2012 08:18 AM

I donate to the Dog's Trust. For a very selfish reason. John Barrowman is a patron and often offers personal belongings, or things he has been given (a Day Out Rally Driving, a signed photo, a first edition of his book) as prizes.

But I respect what they do, same way I respect the Celia Hammond Animal Trust; they never put a healthy cat down and have a large country facility for cats that cannot be rehomed (especially ferals). They are into lifelong support. They've had money from me in the past, when I have had it.

I have also given to humans when I could. Save the Children and Help the Aged especially. Children in Need, Sport Relief, Comic Relief every year. Sometimes it's been just making a cake. Sometimes it's just been organising collections, selling raffle tickets, raising awareness. I don't think it has to be either/ or when it comes to animals and humans. I just know of animals helped by various charities and trusts. Whereas when giving to humans it's just... out there. Never met them, never will. I take it on trust.

I used to find that people who refused to give to "foreigners" i.e. starving people abroad "because there are people hungry in this country" actually didn't give to UK causes either. Each to their own - I don't volunteer any more although I have the time to (except the extra hours at school), so I'm not any kind of shining angel.

Gravdigr 04-14-2012 04:11 PM

The worth of the aminals far outweighs the worth of teh huboons.

Gravdigr 04-16-2012 12:15 PM

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Sundae 04-16-2012 12:18 PM

Hmmmm.
Not knowing Keith Moon is dead.
Thinking Johnny Rotten would be appropriate to play in the closing ceremony?
I suspect pranking aomewhere along the line.

ZenGum 04-20-2012 09:16 AM

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Oh ye gods.

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From http://www.cairns.com.au/article/201...ocal-news.html

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A READER of The Cairns Post has snapped an incredible series of images in a Freshwater backyard. Check out our photo gallery.

As a frequent visitor to the beaches and wild rainforests of Cape York, kite surfer Ant Hadleigh thought he had seen it all.

But the Cairns man was in disbelief after witnessing a golden orb spider slowly attempt to eat a brown tree snake at a mate's place in Freshwater yesterday afternoon.

"I thought it was pretty incredible," Mr Hadleigh said.

"A few times the snake managed to get up and attack the spider, and the spider would run back up the web.

"I would have put my money on the snake for sure, especially seeing how big it was."

Mr Hadleigh estimated the tree snake to be around half a metre long and was alive for "an hour or more" after being caught in the spider's web, before finally succumbing to the crafty arachnid's venom.

Damn, that's one of the few snakes that isn't particularly dangerous to humans.

More nightmares/pics at the link.

infinite monkey 04-20-2012 09:26 AM

omgomgomgomgomgomg...

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH

:mad:

:bolt:

glatt 04-20-2012 09:44 AM

Woah!

DanaC 04-20-2012 09:56 AM

The snake I like, the spider and the fact that it is eating the snake freaks me out.

infinite monkey 04-20-2012 09:56 AM

(races to airport, hops on a plane to Australia, runs to Zen's house, slaps him across the face, runs back to airport, jumps on plane home...cartoon style.)

footfootfoot 04-20-2012 05:58 PM

Late to this thread but, exactly what kind of scrotum attack isn't brutal?
/pedant

ZenGum 04-20-2012 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 807492)
(races to airport, hops on a plane to Australia, runs to Zen's house, slaps him across the face, runs back to airport, jumps on plane home...cartoon style.)

I doubt you'd get a direct flight to Adelaide.
You'd need to have a stop-over.

In Cairns.

BigV 04-23-2012 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 807561)
Late to this thread but, exactly what kind of scrotum attack isn't brutal?
/pedant

You may be late, but you'll be glad you came.

A tongue lashing.
/pervert


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