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Aliantha 01-03-2014 05:37 PM

9.30am and 100f already.

We are taking the kids to the science centre.

tw 01-03-2014 08:00 PM

The cost and transporting electricity is typically between $20 and $40 per megawatt hour. To put that into perspective, you might pay 13 cents per kilowatt hour or $130 per megawatt hour retail. These costs mean utilities make a small and consistent profit.

However utilities buy electricity on the spot market. Sometimes demand and other factors cause their purchase prices to increase.

I rarely see costs this high. For example, instead of paying maybe $30 on the spot market, the cost of electricity in Wellsboro PA is currently $283.90 per megawatt hour. Other prices are $310 in Vineland NJ, $376 in Chalk Point MD, and $309 on an undersea connection from New Jersey to Long Island. $478 in Quakertown PA.

Average Chicago price is about $144. Ohio about $195. $326 in the Richmond VA area. $310 in the Lexington KY area. Ironically, where electricity is produced and transmission facilities are restricted, prices are significantly lower such as $30 in Mount Storm MD near the West Virginia border.

Do so many consumers in this day and age still use electricity for heat?

Undertoad 01-03-2014 09:53 PM

All heat pump users use electricity "emergency heat" when the outdoor air is too cold to exchange heat, or the outdoor unit is under a foot of snow and won't operate normally.

glatt 01-03-2014 10:05 PM

Unless they are ignorant, like we were in our first apartment.

tw 01-03-2014 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 888197)
All heat pump users use electricity "emergency heat" when the outdoor air is too cold to exchange heat, ...

My early experiences with heat pumps went to to 'emergency heat' when outside air was below 40 degrees (5 degrees C). At what temperature do today's heat pumps switch over?

xoxoxoBruce 01-04-2014 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 888135)
Actual: 6", but some places reported 9", so broadly everyone was right and wrong. As usual!

They casually mentioned on TV the 9" reading for Philadelphia Airport was actually taken across the river in Gloucester City, NJ.
WTF?
At the same time all the local NJ measurements they were giving, were less than 9".

xoxoxoBruce 01-04-2014 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 888183)
9.30am and 100f already.

We are taking the kids to the science centre.

But don't leave your car windows open.

Gravdigr 01-04-2014 02:39 PM

That is just so fucked up. I'd pay the fine. I guess I'd have to, here, you don't pay a fine, they take your license. But, there'd be cop cars showing up with missing windows for months, if not years.

You have any idea how far away you can be and still break windows with the right pellet rifle?

Gravdigr 01-04-2014 02:40 PM

I guess they execute your children if you leave your convertible top down...

Aliantha 01-04-2014 05:01 PM

Its just bullshit. Many many people leave their windows down a bit. I do all the time. The copper obviously had nothing better to do that day. I would guess his sarge had a talk with him, but it was legal for him to write the ticket, so they cant censure him.

BigV 01-05-2014 12:46 PM

Or, you know, get a better law.

Sundae 01-06-2014 10:05 AM

He was parked on the pavement. I don't care about the window being open (he can take all the risks he likes with his own property as far as I'm concerned) but he deserves £22-ish fine for parking where people are trying to walk. So there.

infinite monkey 01-06-2014 10:54 AM

What's more: what is the deal with the whole "FATHER" thing? So, a FATHER left his car window down. The FATHER of a child got a ticket. The cop gave this FATHER a ticket. What does being a FATHER have to do with anything?

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A FATHER who left the window down on his parked and unattended car on a scorching summer's day has been slugged with a fine that has left him hot under the collar.
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It was a decision that left the father of one with a $44 fine and a rap across the knuckles from police.
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Julian Harris with his three-year-old son Javier.
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"We understand the police have a hard job to do but I am sure they have better things to be doing than booking a father for having his window open a crack to keep the heat down in his car."
Anyway, it's minus 5 degrees here, not including wind chill, and it's about 50 in my house. :(

glatt 01-06-2014 11:01 AM

Cold weather sucks. We're next. We're getting it tonight.

I wish our walls had some insulation in them.

infinite monkey 01-06-2014 11:02 AM

A really hot bath sounds good but then I'd have to get out.

THIS SUCKS!


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