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glatt 03-10-2014 05:15 AM

Remarkable. I can think of only two stores in Arlington that hire teens.

Griff 03-10-2014 05:44 AM

I would assume that under-employed adults take a lot of those low-skill jobs now. I see a lot of kids doing basically nothing (Insert pet video game rant here) and other kids are focused on school, sports, and what they perceive as resume builders. I'm not sure what I'd have done if I weren't driving tractors all Summer. Please ignore the previous as that is now an illegal activity.

Clodfobble 03-10-2014 06:39 AM

Yeah, I think it's more because adults are taking those crappy jobs right now. Even in 1996-1998, when I was a teen working in food service, my best friend and I were the only teens working in either of the locations we worked in. The other employees were all adults, most with families. One or two were earning extra income at night while they got a late-life degree, but the majority knew they'd be working crap jobs like this for their whole lives, and wanted nothing more than to eventually get to be a manager.

glatt 03-10-2014 07:15 AM

It's a disturbing trend.

I want my kids to get jobs when they are in high school. Starting around junior year or so. But I'm not sure they will be able to. Having a crappy minimum wage job is an extremely important learning experience. Where else will they learn what it's like to have a boss who won't take shit from you? "I don't care if you want to go home now. Scrape that gum off the bottom of those chairs, or don't bother coming back."

orthodoc 03-12-2014 12:01 AM

I think the best possible job for teens is in agriculture. There's nothing like shoveling shit for months on end, starting daily at 0430, to take the entitled starch out of kids. In addition to shoveling the shit, they get to see the cycle of life from start to end, and how we depend on it. They get to decide if they want to support agribusiness or not; they get to decide what they think about a lot of important issues.

Whether it's beef, chickens, sheep, or horses, I say ship the kids to the country and let them experience where food/life comes from. They'll come back with a new perspective.

Undertoad 03-12-2014 08:50 AM

http://cellar.org/2014/labortwenties.jpg

Undertoad 03-12-2014 08:56 AM

oh, wait... there's a detail that makes this entire graph and/or chart much less interesting

http://cellar.org/2014/labortwenties2.jpg

glatt 03-12-2014 09:39 AM

These charts are fascinating. I was about to post that teen one on facebook, but then thought better of it. If I want my kids to get jobs locally, the last thing I need is to raise a discussion with parents of other teens in my neighborhood about how teen jobs are worthwhile, but scarce. Don't need to fuel competition.

Undertoad 03-21-2014 12:39 PM

Philadelphia and Toledo win the misery index for snowfall this season. (But shhh there's another storm on the way next week)

http://cellar.org/2014/snowtotals.jpg

glatt 03-21-2014 01:29 PM

Interesting chart. I would have preferred to see the increase as a percentage instead of as a real number of inches.

The +36 inches in Caribou sounds like a lot more than the +15 inches in DC,
But Caribou was only 38% more than usual and DC was 98% more than usual.

Of course Philly is still misery center because it's like 216% more than usual.

footfootfoot 03-21-2014 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orthodoc (Post 894470)
I think the best possible job for teens is in agriculture. There's nothing like shoveling shit for months on end, starting daily at 0430, to take the entitled starch out of kids. In addition to shoveling the shit, they get to see the cycle of life from start to end, and how we depend on it. They get to decide if they want to support agribusiness or not; they get to decide what they think about a lot of important issues.

Whether it's beef, chickens, sheep, or horses, I say ship the kids to the country and let them experience where food/life comes from. They'll come back with a new perspective.

I'm not sure teens would make the best ag workers, we'd all starve in about two growing seasons.

:p:

Gravdigr 03-22-2014 03:55 PM

Plus, how many of today's teenagers would willingly shovel shit?

xoxoxoBruce 03-22-2014 05:58 PM

I don't think anyone ever willingly shoveled shit, I know I sure as hell didn't. It was just something that had to be done, came will the territory.

But I think you're underestimating todays teens. Spoiled? Who spoiled them? I think if they had to do unpleasant things they would rise to the occasion, it's not their fault they were raised in an environment where they didn't have to.

Gravdigr 03-23-2014 02:00 PM

They're not spoiled, lots of kids smell like that.

:D

Gravdigr 03-23-2014 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 895252)
I don't think anyone ever willingly shoveled shit, I know I sure as hell didn't. It was just something that had to be done, came will the territory.

To me, that's doing it willingly. And I did it, too.

:turd:


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