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Undertoad 09-06-2016 07:12 AM

Oh, you seem to believe that preseason is useful as an indicator of how real games are going to go.

lumberjim 09-06-2016 07:42 AM

Not really. I look more at individual performance. I think Chase Daniel lost the starting job more than anything. He took 4 sacks in the first half because he held the ball too long.

Undertoad 09-06-2016 08:36 AM

Doug Pederson was Daniel's QB coach last year. He's an entirely known quantity. There's no need to evaluate him in preseason.

lumberjim 09-06-2016 09:48 AM

Then why play him at all?

Undertoad 09-06-2016 11:07 AM

For all the reasons there is a preseason... to train the playbook, establish unity, and evaluate everyone on the field who does need evaluatin'.

The way I see it, outcomes don't matter... but the film does... so he may be instructed to stay in the pocket and take hits, because the point of a quarter is to figure out if the guards are going to be able to do a certain kind of pull or trap or whatever it is they need to do. We don't know what the point of these plays are, which is why I don't care about preseason

Chase Daniel is QB Doug Pederson in 1999, brought in because he is a known quantity, understands Pederson's system, will coach the whiz kid, and most importantly: become a backup and happily take that role. Something Sammy did not do...

lumberjim 09-06-2016 11:25 AM

Instructed to stay in the pocket and take hits? A guy you're paying 7mil? Neh.

You don't pull or trap in pass protection. Well, screen passes, but that's not what they were doing. He either lacked the confidence in his receivers or they are not getting open even a little. This is just one game. The offense managed what, 3 points?

But then Wentz has played zero snaps with the first string, so he didn't really have a pre season.

You guys went 4-0 last year too.

What's your prediction for this year's record?

Undertoad 09-06-2016 12:05 PM

This is 1999, so 5-11

Quote:

A guy you're paying 7mil? Neh
Why ELSE would you pay that to a career backup QB in their 7th year? Because he knows the Pederson/Reid system cold, and will take those hits, coach the kid, and smile when he's not named starter. Last year you could have Tebow do that...

classicman 09-06-2016 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 968495)
This is 1999, so 5-11

Hey! That's my number.

captainhook455 09-06-2016 09:42 PM

Don't make me tell the 69 joke.

tarheel

Gravdigr 09-06-2016 10:45 PM

Tell the 69 joke.

lumberjim 09-06-2016 11:08 PM

:twists your arm:

fargon 09-07-2016 05:40 AM

Please tell the 69 joke.

captainhook455 09-07-2016 09:23 AM

A man went to a house of ill repute. Told the madam he wanted something different. He had done everything. She named a few things and he said he had done those. Did you ever 69? No I don't believe I have.
So he goes to a room, takes his clothes off and gets into the position with a pretty young woman. They going at it and he is happy. Couple minutes go by and phsst, she farts in his face. Whoa. God, what did she eat? The air clears and he is going at it again.
Phsst. Oh no, stop right now he says, dear girl I do like what we doing and all, but I don't think I can take another 67 of them.

tarheel

Gravdigr 09-07-2016 02:04 PM

Sir, I thank you.

fargon 09-07-2016 02:24 PM

Thank You Sir!


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