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Aliantha 04-21-2007 12:24 AM

I agree with UT on this one. I don't think you can only blame guns for the tragedy. It's a societal issue and considering the fact that it keeps happening, it really needs to be looked at.

Undertoad 04-21-2007 10:07 AM

According to CNN, Cho started to act strangely at age 8.

His classmates knew him as the boy who never spoke.

elSicomoro 04-21-2007 10:17 AM

Cho may have blown up anyway, but I can't help but wonder...if kids were a little less harsh and this particular kid had assimilated better into American culture, maybe we wouldn't be talking about this.

Clodfobble 04-21-2007 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
Cho started to act strangely at age 8.

Wasn't that when he came to the US? Is is because of the culture shock, or just because they can't interview any of his Korean elementary schoolmates?

duck_duck 04-21-2007 02:20 PM

I haven't been able to assimilate into american culture but I'm not about to rampage either. This man had something deeper wrong with him then just being made fun of by his schoolmates.

Clodfobble 04-21-2007 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by duck duck
I haven't been able to assimilate into american culture but I'm not about to rampage either.

Well at least your English is flawless, right?

duck_duck 04-21-2007 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 336240)
Well at least your English is flawless, right?

That is because I've been learning english since I can remember. Many many people in hong kong are fluent in it. In fact my old school had most of it's instruction in english. I think it is still considered one of the official languages there.

piercehawkeye45 04-21-2007 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 335801)
Oh, so we are talking about you forcing your opinions on others and turning them into rules?

So what, you want anarchy? Actually anarchy does have rules but I won't get into it and just use the stereotypical term since I don't know another word that would describe it. Living in a society means that you will give up freedoms and in turn the state will, hopefully, help you. It is like a contract, if you don’t do this and this we will do this and this. I am not for a complete ban on guns anyways.

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage
If you are uncomfortable with a gun, you not buying one is, absolutely, keeping those around you safe.

How so? I am not uncomfortable with a gun and I still haven't completely gotten rid of the idea of owning one myself, it is just that I know a lot of stupid people that don't think before they make decisions and I really don't want them with a tool that is made specifically for killing. For the record, I am not scared of guns or whatever that stupid -phobia is called, I am just scared of some people that are behind the gun using it in ways that put people in harm.

piercehawkeye45 04-21-2007 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 335929)
Maybe he was actually a Negro??

What?

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Originally Posted by sycamore
Cho may have blown up anyway, but I can't help but wonder...if kids were a little less harsh and this particular kid had assimilated better into American culture, maybe we wouldn't be talking about this.

I would like to think so.

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Originally Posted by duck_duck
I haven't been able to assimilate into american culture but I'm not about to rampage either. This man had something deeper wrong with him then just being made fun of by his schoolmates.

You can't put all outcasts in the same group. All of them go through it at different times of their lives with different intensities go home to different support and each have a different ways of handling it.

rkzenrage 04-21-2007 09:04 PM

Anarchy has rules? LOL!

What people keep ignoring is that we are FAR less violent and use guns FAR LESS now than ever before in the US. We just have too much news with nothing to do but over report, nationally, local news stories and focusing on the negative aspects of our nation. You could not get a news service to report on anything positive by holding one of these guns to their heads.

duck_duck 04-21-2007 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 336285)
You can't put all outcasts in the same group. All of them go through it at different times of their lives with different intensities go home to different support and each have a different ways of handling it.

In other words he had something deeper wrong with him. I just can't buy into the blame everybody else for the actions of a nut theory.

Beestie 04-21-2007 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 336162)
According to CNN, Cho started to act strangely at age 8. His classmates knew him as the boy who never spoke.

I read the Washington Post story about him this morning. He was acting strange since the day he was born. His mother knew there was something wrong with him (not that she ever dreamed it was this wrong but she knew he was damaged goods even as a toddler).

Beestie 04-21-2007 11:32 PM

And speaking of gun rights, here's an interesting story I saw today...

Armed Miss America 1944 Stops Intruder

Had she not been armed, however, the headline might have gone something like this:

Miss America 1944 Found Murdered in Home.

bluecuracao 04-22-2007 03:23 AM

Well, glad she didn't actually shoot the guy, or we might be reading:

Miss America 1944 On Trial for Murder.

TheMercenary 04-22-2007 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Beestie (Post 336329)
I read the Washington Post story about him this morning. He was acting strange since the day he was born. His mother knew there was something wrong with him (not that she ever dreamed it was this wrong but she knew he was damaged goods even as a toddler).

Maybe they should have put him in prison soon after his birth.


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