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glatt 10-16-2008 12:49 PM

Oh, c'mon. Doesn't that deserve a guffaw? Only a "sheesh?" :sniff:

Cicero 10-16-2008 12:50 PM

Why pay by the viable registration? Because it's standard practice and procedure. It makes them work harder to target real (seeming) voters as well. It's true, the more numbers you have the more viable voters you have collected. You do go for numbers because the chances of hitting a real registrant is greater. But yes, they are paid per verifiable registration. ACORN had done one better and to their credit: Pay by the hour!! Less bullshit that way. ACORN is also probably also paid a commission for viable registrations. Typical in the bizz.

The point of all of it is, is to find out who the voters are, and their demographics, and bother them to vote until voting is over. The mission of every campaign is to get the real numbers and where the real voters are so you can develop basic statistics of probability. Then work with those numbers to develop your campaign.

All registrations are verified. Every single one. Obscuring the numbers or flooding the numbers would mean that you don't even know your own outcome, but you have upset a process. What good does it do to obfuscate the facts that you, yourself, NEED dearly?

Ok someone else answer these questions. I'm too bent to keep this up. Let's think things through. All the way through.

Shawnee123 10-16-2008 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 494299)
Oh, c'mon. Doesn't that deserve a guffaw? Only a "sheesh?" :sniff:

I wasn't sheeshing at you, glatt. I was sheeshing at the amazing events I keep witnessing over and over: the "prove it prove it prove it" "where did you hear that?" then when presented with actual articles other than WHAT THEY read ON THE CELLAR the quintessential moderate ignores it...then starts "prove it prove it prove it" "where did you hear that" shit all over again.

It's gotten to the point it makes me sick to my stomach to read anymore.

Don't ask for information you either won't process, can't process, or will ultimately ignore.:headshake

I thought I was the Queen of Denial. I got nuttin' on The Moderate.

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Ok someone else answer these questions. I'm too bent to keep this up. Let's think things through. All the way through
I fucking tried.

Cicero 10-16-2008 01:04 PM

Uh oh. Shawnee and Cic are going, ALL CAPS. Watch out!! lol! ;)

Yes Shawnee, you tried, you did, and you did well.

"But but how you know daaaah'?" lol!

glatt 10-16-2008 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 494302)
I wasn't sheeshing at you, glatt. I was sheeshing at the amazing events I keep witnessing over and over: the "prove it prove it prove it" "where did you hear that?" then when presented with actual articles other than WHAT THEY read ON THE CELLAR the quintessential moderate ignores it...then starts "prove it prove it prove it" "where did you hear that" shit all over again.

It's gotten to the point it makes me sick to my stomach to read anymore.

Don't ask for information you either won't process, can't process, or will ultimately ignore.:headshake

I thought I was the Queen of Denial. I got nuttin' on The Moderate.



I fucking tried.

Never mind. I didn't even notice your earlier post. It was a good one. Can't get much clearer than that.

TheMercenary 10-16-2008 01:22 PM

Well, it looks like someone is concerned so there may actually be something to all this afterall.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

TheMercenary 10-16-2008 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cicero (Post 494300)
All registrations are verified. Every single one. Obscuring the numbers or flooding the numbers would mean that you don't even know your own outcome, but you have upset a process. What good does it do to obfuscate the facts that you, yourself, NEED dearly?

The way I understand it is they are flooding the system needlessly and knowingly. Motivation? Only they can answer that. As I said before, I believe they are motivated by the income. Why elese would you knowingly register the same dude 72 times? Why in the world would you register the homeless guy living under a bridge with a mental illness? (figuratively). Most of these people don't know who is running for office, other than one is a young black guy and the other an old white guy. I guess if we start to see ACORN driving the homeless dude from under the bridge to actually vote we may have an answer. I don't know. But something is obviously afoot.

Pico and ME 10-16-2008 01:35 PM

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Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity because Justice Department regulations forbid discussing ongoing investigations particularly so close to an election.

Ya right...but anonymously leaking that there is an 'investigation' isn't....especially if it helps with the GOP campaign. Timing is everything. This will all be forgotten once Nov. 4 comes around.

TheMercenary 10-16-2008 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME (Post 494315)
This will all be forgotten once Nov. 4 comes around.

I don't think FBI investigations work that way. Maybe back in the time of Hoover, but not so much lately.

Cicero 10-16-2008 01:45 PM

I am on stfu mode. If you can not find a motivation for such a ridiculous allegation *#$^%^&%^%T%&&r77rE!!! BAAAH!!

This is the sound of utter frustration (the sound I am making). AAAYaah aaa! oh! d'oh. jes..f..chris..dju! gah! ah! fu..dam..dam..kuuuhh!

sigh. alright I feel better. a little..

classicman 10-16-2008 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 494297)
So are you saying that 85% of ACORN's problems are directly traceable to top management?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! !!! !!!!

TheMercenary 10-16-2008 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cicero (Post 494320)
I am on stfu mode. If you can not find a motivation for such a ridiculous allegation *#$^%^&%^%T%&&r77rE!!! BAAAH!!

This is the sound of utter frustration (the sound I am making). AAAYaah aaa! oh! d'oh. jes..f..chris..dju! gah! ah! fu..dam..dam..kuuuhh!

sigh. alright I feel better. a little..

Are you ok?

What was that in reference to anyway? or were you just throwing a dish or dropping a bowling ball out of the aparment tower onto the sidewalk? :D

Cicero 10-16-2008 02:14 PM

gaaah!!

Shawnee123 10-16-2008 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 494314)
The way I understand it is they are flooding the system needlessly and knowingly. Motivation? Only they can answer that. As I said before, I believe they are motivated by the income. Why elese would you knowingly register the same dude 72 times? Why in the world would you register the homeless guy living under a bridge with a mental illness? (figuratively). Most of these people don't know who is running for office, other than one is a young black guy and the other an old white guy. I guess if we start to see ACORN driving the homeless dude from under the bridge to actually vote we may have an answer. I don't know. But something is obviously afoot.

For the 57th time, how can they be motivated by money when they dont' get more money for registering more applicants.

I give up.
Jesus H Christ.

I'm gonna go whine somewhere about how no one is telling me for whom to vote.

TheMercenary 10-16-2008 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 494341)
For the 57th time, how can they be motivated by money when they dont' get more money for registering more applicants.

I give up.
Jesus H Christ.

I'm gonna go whine somewhere about how no one is telling me for whom to vote.

Did you not even read my response???

"I don't know. But something is obviously afoot."


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