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sugarpop 02-24-2009 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 538473)
What don't you understand?

Why we can't quit giving them govt assistance. If you're illegal, why are you entitled to it?

classicman 02-24-2009 10:22 PM

Oh - In that case we agree. For a moment there I had a WTF moment.

sugarpop 02-25-2009 12:53 AM

;)

xoxoxoBruce 02-25-2009 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 537983)
As for the crime stuff, I swear, just repeal all the friggin' drug laws and let people grow their own. That would get rid of the crime element. Prices would go down because it would be plentiful. Let things like weed open up a new industry. It's ridiculous that weed is illegal. It's safer than alcohol. And the tax we could collect on it would be astonomical, not to mention we would save on the "drug war." Controlling other certain substances and taxing them, like we did with alcohol, would help with more hardcore drugs. (No, I don't think those drugs are good. But I think drug laws do more harm than the actual drugs.)

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 537729)
snip~ The small time smugglers/hustlers that you might find in the boondocks, while they may be dangerous, the real criminals that are committing armed robberies, home invasions, kidnappings and murders, worry me much more. They should have never gotten past the border.


sugarpop 02-28-2009 10:48 PM

I watched a thing on weed on cnbc tonight. Since the state law in California is legal for medicinal purposes, there are dispencaries where people with prescriptions can legally buy pot. The people who run those dispencaries pay taxes, a LOT of taxes. the rest of the country should follow suit.

Eric Holder apparently said states will now be in control of their marijuana laws. Good. It's about friggin' time.

TheMercenary 03-01-2009 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 539713)
I watched a thing on weed on cnbc tonight. Since the state law in California is legal for medicinal purposes, there are dispencaries where people with prescriptions can legally buy pot. The people who run those dispencaries pay taxes, a LOT of taxes. the rest of the country should follow suit.

Eric Holder apparently said states will now be in control of their marijuana laws. Good. It's about friggin' time.

I think there is still some major confilict with the fed. I can't remember what it was, maybe in the state of Washington, maybe BigV can help out here.

TGRR 03-01-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 538552)
Why we can't quit giving them govt assistance. If you're illegal, why are you entitled to it?

I will go so far as to say they should be allowed to use an emergency room...but that INS should be informed.

Now, as far as INS goes, we really kind of need to let the INS do its job...and we need to kick every president since Carter up and down the street, for telling the INS to back off.

classicman 03-01-2009 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 539854)
I will go so far as to say they should be allowed to use an emergency room...but that INS should be informed.

Now, as far as INS goes, we really kind of need to let the INS do its job...and we need to kick every.....

one of them here illegally - OUT

TGRR 03-01-2009 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 539979)
one of them here illegally - OUT

Yes, the conclusion of both of my statements taken together agree with that.

I feel for 'em, you know? I understand what they're trying to do...you know, live a better life.

But that isn't our problem.

classicman 03-01-2009 09:39 PM

No it isn't. Perhaps they could try to make their own country better.

TGRR 03-01-2009 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 540115)
No it isn't. Perhaps they could try to make their own country better.

You'd just get shot by the drug lords, who have 60% of the population actively backing them.

classicman 03-01-2009 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 540117)
You'd just get shot by the drug lords, who have 60% of the population actively backing them.

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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 540087)
But that isn't our problem.


TheMercenary 03-02-2009 07:07 AM

:thumb:

TGRR 03-02-2009 06:44 PM

:lol:

Yep.

sugarpop 03-02-2009 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 539854)
I will go so far as to say they should be allowed to use an emergency room...but that INS should be informed.

Now, as far as INS goes, we really kind of need to let the INS do its job...and we need to kick every president since Carter up and down the street, for telling the INS to back off.

Well hospitals have had to close because of people using the emergency room like a doctor's office (not just illegals, but people without insurance as well). The INS isn't even allowed to ask your legal status. THAT is wrong.

[quote=TGRRI feel for 'em, you know? I understand what they're trying to do...you know, live a better life.[/quote]

Yes, me too. But they should come legally. IMHO, the only way to stop the problem is to cut it off at the top, with the people who hire them.


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