piercehawkeye45, why should humanity continue to exist.
what is it exactly about us that deserves to continue?
lets pretend that i have a button in front of me that by pressing it, humanity sill cease to exist.
i'd like someone to give me a reason not to press it, for at this time, i have nothing to stop me from pressing it.
can anyone think of anything to tell me to defend our kind?
someone with a purpose, stop me.

If everyone swept their own front porch, the world will be clean. The cessation of humanity starts at home.

UPDATE

The curve for population has changed. It is no longer the doomsday scenario: growth is slowing.

Most European nations do not produce enough offspring to even achieve zero population growth.

It's been unequivocally shown that the best way to slow a country's population growth is to improve their education and economic status. All you have to do is make the world a better place, W.HI.P.

Get to it!

OMG, he's a suicidal Muslim. :eek:

In the grand outlook of things, there is no reason for anything to exist or not to exist. No matter what humans do, the universe and the Earth will move on. But, I enjoy existence and I'm sure most other humans do as well, so the best reason I have is for the enjoyment of our pointless existence. Its not like any other current animal species will enjoy existence more then us.

OK, thats it, i'm pressing the button.
i give you guys 24 hours to give me a reason not to eliminate humanity.

Europe is not really the problem are of our overpopulation.
overpopulation is not the main objective of this discussion.
also, making this world a better place for humans is not the key.... we've been trying to do that since day 1, but our attempts has only made it worse in the long run.
the problem is what we are.
that seems to be what were having a hard time grasping.
we paint all these pretty pictures around us to hide the reality of what we are.
Can anyone without a fairy tale about a pink unicorn bring some light and purpose to our existence?
can anyone defend us with conviction as to stop me from pressing this button?

Hahaha, did you just find out about the nihilistic argument? Life is hard and unforgiving, I doubt anyone here will disagree, but the best way to get past that is attempting to enjoy it. Remember, whether the glass is half full or half empty, it still has the same amount of water in it. So might as well look at it from the half full side.

Well duh, survial and reproduction, like every other plant/animal/insect on the planet. Some are successful, some are not.
We don't need defending, we're doing what every critter is doing, we just do it better.

I have wealth, i enjoy my work very much, i love family members, i'm as content as a man can be....this is not about struggle, or the viewing of a half full/empty glass.
what i'm not content with, is the species that i am.
i can't stand our ignorance and disrespect for life.
i would much rather be a cat(any size) ...a much superior species than our own.... i would reproduce as much as possible if that was the case.

but that is not the case, as i am part of a species, who's actions on this planet place us lower than rats roaches.

:rotflol: Cats? Superior? You are a sick fuck... push the button. :lol2:

Well, you could always become a furry.

Laughing at cats are ya?
They ruled this earth a lot longer than we have, and they certainly did a better job than we have.
Even with smaller domestic cats today, anyone who lives with one could tell you that cats see us as their slaves, unlike the dog who tends to worship us as if we were gods.
so yeah, the cat, clearly superior, on every level....even within our rulership of this earth, during the roman empire, tens of thousands of people would watch the fight between a cat and a human, and cheer as the superior species was victorious

Yeah, yeah, and if cats could drive, they would run over you in a heartbeat, and not give it a thought. Survival and reproduction, Baby, that's the bottom line. Everything else is mental masturbation. :haha:

What Bruce said :)