I thought this was another clone thread. Then I remembered that the names were changed... Thread title as well.

Does bacefook have anything comparable to being sent to Coventry so you can continue draining energy from undesirables and make the world a better place for others? Anyone? Anyone?

I welcome your contempt.

I don't expect to change the opinions of trans-phobic bigots, but I will point out any logical fallacies in the trite, disingenuous memes they post. Unless of course, they block me from being able to comment on their posts, like F**d S***d the cowardly bigot did, and then lied about not doing. Unfriending me is what F**d should have done in the first place--although I will point out that I never felt the need to unfriend F**d. You see, like I keep saying, I think that a free, unfettered exchange of ideas--especially when people disagree--is really a great thing.

I haven't been on FB for that long, but I'm noticing that people can use the settings to curate a false little world where nobody ever disagrees with them. I'm now aware that having a fairly Moderated site is quite a luxury.

Limey is still F*** Sch*** in post 8.

Since I'm now living in the Pacific NW, I'm a little unclear on the geographical boundaries of the strict use of the term barbecue. Technically, this was not a BBQ, we grilled. It was excellent, and the weather was beautiful. Good times. Also, there were two trans people there and nobody got raped in the bathroom, whether or not F**d believes this is possible.

See post number two of this thread.

In real life, when people come up to you and say things you figure are wrong, do you say:

"You're an asshole, but you're also wrong. Since I'm smarter than you, let me explain why you're wrong."

If you said that to anyone. ANYONE. In "real life". What would you expect to have happen?

If someone said that to YOU. What would you do? What if it was a stranger? What if it was an acquaintance? What if it was a friend?

The Cellar was DESIGNED to be the discussion you wanted. That was my original intent; free range discussion. For years it worked that way. It has now stopped being that, because as social media bloomed, people found they could go elsewhere and curate their false little world where nobody ever disagrees with them.

All political people have now left the Cellar because they got pushback and found it uncomfortable. It happened from the right. It happened from the left.

This is where we are today. And now, as what I find to be a final insult, you have used the Cellar, not to HAVE that discussion, but to yell at other people for not having that discussion ELSEWHERE.

I had figured this, and it was part of my outrage. You can put me off if you're at a BBQ. If it's dogs on a Weber, you can go to the bathroom and answer the post on your phone. Or just do it while sitting there, with your horribly overcooked burger and slice of processed cheese product.

~ ETA Were many political and social positions and types represented at this event? Bubbles aren't just for social media. You moved into one. On purpose. ~


The Cellar was co-founded by a trans person. (In a cellar.)

Dang, you seem pretty pissed, dude. I'm sorry that it feels like I am part of a trend that (rightly) upsets you. Honestly I'm pretty new to FB, and most of the time I've been away from the Cellar I wasn't posting anywhere. I've made a conscious effort to post more on FB the last few years, to keep up with family back home. I don't think I've ever posted anything political on FB until this current primary season. That's all this is.

Tap tap tap... Is this thing on??

O the irony, UT must have put me on Ignore.

You want to know where I was that night? I was at a dear friend's house celebrating the anniversary of moving back in after a house fire. We were sitting outside enjoying the beautiful sunshine after a long rainy season, grilling some gourmet-ƒucking-quality food and having real-life conversations, actually in person, when you FB messaged to harass me about this thread, which I fully intended to get back to on Monday when I was at a proper keyboard, which I did. Jesus.

You may know the semantic difference between BBQ and grilling

But now, to fully comprehend my post, and understand its mild humor, you will need to have BBQ.

shitty tough meat BBQd > gourmet food grilled

Growing up is hard to do

But being awesome never gets old. Bring it on, low-key haters.

BBQ vs grilling

Here is the Judge John Hodgman podcast on the topic. Enjoy and laugh while learning.