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footfootfoot 02-01-2017 08:50 PM
Unsettling Echoes: Joseph Goebbels (1933), Sean Spicer (2017), Steve Bannon (2017)

http://www.historyworkshop.org.uk/un...e-bannon-2017/

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Originally Posted by Jane Caplan

An outspoken free press is one of the great obstacles to demagogues, who prefer simplistic propaganda to open public debate. The Trump government exemplifies this maxim. It loathes both honest reportage and critical opinion, it seeks to brand uncomfortable truths as lies, and through making direct contact with its audience it tries to evade the filters of fact-checking and sceptical assessment. Whether or not Trump and his entourage understand this, these moves propel them ineluctably into the realm of history’s past masters of political propaganda and the repression of dissent.


Jane Caplan is Emeritus Fellow of St Antony’s College, Oxford, and Emeritus Marjorie Walter Goodhart Professor of European History at Bryn Mawr College. She is a leading historian of Nazi Germany and the history of the documentation of individual identity. Professor Caplan was involved in establishing one of Britain’s first university courses in women’s studies. She is also an editor of History Workshop Journal.

Sheldonrs 02-02-2017 09:16 AM
Trump asked them to pray for "Celebrity Apprentice" AT THE NATIONAL PRAYER BREAKFAST!!! Oh, and he also hung up the phone while speaking to the PM of Australia, threatened Mexico, put IRAN on notice and insulted Prince Charles.
If you voted for Trump, for whatever reasons you had at the time, and you STILL don't feel like a moron, perhaps it's time to enter the WITLESS protection program.

monster 02-02-2017 09:56 AM
His comments on Black History Month are pretty WTF to say the least. How is this not as embarrassing for Republicans as for the rest of us he represents (whether we like it or not)?

glatt 02-02-2017 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by monster (Post 981158)
How is this not as embarrassing for Republicans as for the rest of us he represents (whether we like it or not)?
The people who voted for him are not scrutinizing his actions like the people who didn't vote for him. And the few actions that they do hear about, they are viewing from a bias of approval to begin with, so they simply don't see it as a problem.

Happy Monkey 02-02-2017 10:26 AM
He also "all lives matter"ed the Holocaust.

xoxoxoBruce 02-02-2017 10:29 AM
I agree.

Hey buddy, did you hear how Trump told them foreigners to fuck off?
Yeah, that'll show 'em we ain't takin' no shit from them.

Undertoad 02-02-2017 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Sheldonrs (Post 981156)
If you voted for Trump, for whatever reasons you had at the time, and you STILL don't feel like a moron, perhaps it's time to enter the WITLESS protection program.
Insults are unconvincing. So, just the eight mo... aw forget it

footfootfoot 02-02-2017 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Sheldonrs (Post 981156)
Trump asked them to pray for "Celebrity Apprentice" AT THE NATIONAL PRAYER BREAKFAST!!! Oh, and he also hung up the phone while speaking to the PM of Australia, threatened Mexico, put IRAN on notice and insulted Prince Charles.
If you voted for Trump, for whatever reasons you had at the time, and you STILL don't feel like a moron, perhaps it's time to enter the WITLESS protection program.
:lol2:

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 981158)
His comments on Black History Month are pretty WTF to say the least. How is this not as embarrassing for Republicans as for the rest of us he represents (whether we like it or not)?
When denial is your stock in trade, changing your opinion becomes challenging.

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 981160)
The people who voted for him are not scrutinizing his actions like the people who didn't vote for him. And the few actions that they do hear about, they are viewing from a bias of approval to begin with, so they simply don't see it as a problem.
True. cf above

monster 02-02-2017 12:10 PM
yebbut........

I keep coming back to the Emperor's New Clothes and thinking we just need a child to shout the truth. Oh well, 2 weeks down, only 206 more to go....

sexobon 02-02-2017 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 981165)
Insults are unconvincing. So, just the eight mo... aw forget it
That was a good effort UT. You hung in there longer than I thought you would. What went around came around and they got what they bargained for. Now it's time to just kick back and enjoy the entertainment. I'm LMAO.

xoxoxoBruce 02-02-2017 10:11 PM
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Here's a benchmark to refer back to.

glatt 02-03-2017 07:50 AM
Catching up on the "Bowling Green Massacre" this morning.

What are they doing? Even if there is a big kernel of truth in that two bad guys snuck in with refugees and were caught, talking about a non-existent massacre is only going to make you look like a stupid liar.

Are they incompetent? Or do they have a master plan that involves gaslighting the country as part of an intricate plan to become nazi dictators?

They can't be THAT incompetent, can they?

Flint 02-03-2017 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 981229)
Catching up on the "Bowling Green Massacre" this morning.

What are they doing? Even if there is a big kernel of truth in that two bad guys snuck in with refugees and were caught, talking about a non-existent massacre is only going to make you look like a stupid liar.

Are they incompetent? Or do they have a master plan that involves gaslighting the country as part of an intricate plan to become nazi dictators?

They can't be THAT incompetent, can they?
They're either incompetent, liars, or "something else" ...

(the ominous third-option-of-doom that Trump used to characterize Obama's actions)

footfootfoot 02-03-2017 02:28 PM
I'm surprised there was no mention of the soccer pitch slayings.

Griff 02-03-2017 03:55 PM
That's different. That ain't no merica game, they had it coming.


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