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coliano 11-04-2003 01:28 PM

Right you are xoxoxoBruce, thus the asterisk and the debateable comment. But that would be a whole other discussion now wouldn't it? ;) Just trying to stay somewhere close to the topic at hand. :)

RQuinn 11-04-2003 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by Undertoad
It's interesting how one can have such great respect for animals and such little respect for fellow human beings.
Hear hear!

Personally, I'd eat anything, dog, dolphin, or human. But I've long since learned that people don't want to listen to someone like me, so I'll stay out of this.

OnyxCougar 11-04-2003 02:01 PM

I'd recommend it.

And since quzah can't debate without personal insults, I decided he's not worth debating with.

OnyxCougar 11-04-2003 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by coliano
Right you are xoxoxoBruce, thus the asterisk and the debateable comment. But that would be a whole other discussion now wouldn't it? ;) Just trying to stay somewhere close to the topic at hand. :)
Yeah, like that's gonna happen. :)

kisrael 11-04-2003 02:08 PM

I think it is an uncommon but not hypocritical or self-contradictory to hold that human concern for an individual animal is what gives that animal value "worth" in the sense of whether it's ok to kill it or not.

That said, I think Dolphins are high enough up the intellgence and uniqueness chain that their killing on a large scale should give us pause. (I have a moral sense that uses "non-trivial uniqueness" as a rough measure of a creatures value, what the universe loses when that life is snuffed out. It sounds a little cold, but actually is a pretty morally defensible position I think.)

OnyxCougar 11-04-2003 02:09 PM

**ducks**

warch 11-04-2003 03:16 PM

ummmm...ducks....

DNK 11-04-2003 03:33 PM

Okay, ducks:

http://www.tribalcog.com/ecard/china...ks_kunming.jpg

quzah 11-04-2003 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by OnyxCougar
I'd recommend it.

And since quzah can't debate without personal insults, I decided he's not worth debating with.

Translation: Since I have no counter-point to his points, I'll ignore them and pretend they don't exist. Just like you pretend it's OK because they raise cattle. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

Quzah.

OnyxCougar 11-04-2003 03:54 PM

I think they're much prettier with the feathers on them. :D

xoxoxoBruce 11-04-2003 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by coliano
Right you are xoxoxoBruce, thus the asterisk and the debateable comment. But that would be a whole other discussion now wouldn't it? ;) Just trying to stay somewhere close to the topic at hand. :)
Since I was responding to YOUR post, at the time it was the topic at hand. But since this thread has wandered all over the map just what the hell is the topic at hand now?
Japs wholesale killing of dolphins?
Japs eating dolphins?
Anybody eating any critters?
Raising vs hunting critters
Eating dumb vs smart critters?
Eating apples vs oranges?:p

OnyxCougar 11-04-2003 07:08 PM

:)

Griff 11-04-2003 07:36 PM

You folks should be ashamed of yourselves. Those are obviously sharks...

Hermit 11-05-2003 12:16 AM

Intelligent?
 
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Japan, to its shame, allows 22,275 of the intelligent marine mammals to be caugh
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fishermen pound on the water, causing waves that confuse the animals'
If they are so intelligent, why are they so easily confused? Why aren't they pounding on the boats confusing the people?

xoxoxoBruce 11-05-2003 03:23 AM

Of course, Hermit. Any critter that engages in recreational sex, has to be intelligent. ;)


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