I regret it, but I'm gonna get involved in this too.

Your entire argument hinges on this concept, prettymuch, no?

Sometimes, you gotta put up with a couple worms for the best damn apple youve ever tasted. You obviously aren't willing to, and quite frankly, that's relieving, because it means you will not keep yourself in the gene pool. You've socially darwinized yourself out of reproduction, and thats a relief to people everywhere.


EDIT: and Aliantha says it better that I ever could in her thread...

Over 30 post and you nit-pick one sentences to launch from. Good luck and somebody wake me when this "person" says something of a real rebuttle.

...Because that sentence encapsulates your whole argument.

Well BM I think its unfair of you to attack Ibram, I personally disputed every facet of every argument you had, with proof, and your (not you're) only reply was "Sally". I understand now that once you have nowhere else to go you tell someone they're (not there) a "Sally". You reverted to namecalling like a child when you realized that your opinion (and thats all it is) was faulty, lacked basis and was discounted with facts. I agree with Ibram when he said - "it means you will not keep yourself in the gene pool. You've socially darwinized yourself out of reproduction" Thank goodness!

Oh, and bmw? Call me a 'sally' all you want... Hell, even call me a queer or worse if you like. You'd be right, and I'd be proud. People like you is what makes me hate the fact that I'm male.

I secede from maledom.

I had no idea what "sally" meant? Is bmw for real? For pete's sake...someone give that guy an enema.

Course, with friends like us, who needs enemas?

Ibram don't be upset - BM (pun intended) was calling me a Sally, cuz I destroyed his BS argument and baseless points, not you. Although I'll call you Sally if you'd like. I think it was meant to be an insult to me as in someone who is a feminine male or one who is less than a "manly man" - I really don't care what he means. For his opinion to affect me I would have to respect him or anyone in some way and he certainly hadn't earned any of mine - not with his opinions, spelling nor grammar.

Nonono, that was a pre-emptive 'go ahead, call me one, i dont care'

Another "Sally" comment.

Your mom is a "Sally" comment.

A "Sally" is a nice way of calling an obsequies effeminate pussy-whipped mommas-boy that does more pom-pom waving than debating. These "Sally" think by being sickly agreeable with others insults they believe they can benefits without the responsibility. That’s what pussy-whipped mommas-boys are. Talk tough in groups and level accusation then run behind mommas skirt when it time to put up.

I suppose you might call them some other term, around where I live we just call them "Sallys."

I don’t let a jackass bother me to much but when they hew-haw so much you have to treat them like a jackass.

BTW, why ask if I’m for real. Why don’t you say something real before you pass judgment? Where’s your insightful rebuttal. Talk the talk, walk the walk baby.

Ooooooooooh, you done brung it!:3eye:

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Let me encapsulate your retort..."Sally."

How pathetic. Don't fret about your maleness; get a sex change, a poodle, and a house with a dry well in the basement. "Its puts the lotion on." :speechls:

Hey do put on makeup and tuck your maleness behind your cross legs and stand in front of a full length mirror twirling about. :lol2:

bmw, wouldn't you be happier somewhere else? I realize the name calling started long ago, but you brought it to a new low. If it were up to me, you'd get the banhammer. There is no call for that.

mrnoodle - Don't worry, Even the lowest forms of life need to exist - otherwise we wouldn't know how wonderful the other forms are. Its the balance of nature.

BM(pun intended) - You asked Where’s your insightful rebuttal." " (BTW - that should have a question mark on the end of it.) My insightful rebuttal which you conveniently have not replied to since it crushed your bogus argument with fact and data is post #224 - if you can count that high. Its been there a week now.

Wow, that is a very simplistic way at looking at relationships noodle. I dated for many years before marrying my wife and just quit... it was easy, so was no longer living by myself, something I also had done since I was very young (my own room, that is) as well as on my own since sixteen... your argument makes no sense when compared to all other behaviors.
The IDEA of marriage is change.

Let me tell you, it's quite fun. Not that you need me to tell you I'm sure.

Men are jerks. End of story. There are exceptions, many of the men here are exceptions, but you arent. You are a typical, selfish, stupid, woman-hating man. I have nothing but contempt for people like you.
I dont want to argue with you, you'll just drag it down to homophobia and namecalling like you do with every single other argument so far. But I also vote ban, if it comes to that, because youre losing your entertainment value fast.

Just Don't Look - 30th October 1995
 

[Paul Anka]
To stop those monsters 1-2-3
Here's a fresh new way that's trouble free
It's got Paul Anka's guarantee...
[Lisa]
Guarantee void in Tennessee!
[All]
Just don't look!
Just don't look!
Just don't look!
Just don't look!

There's a morbid compulsion to look, similar to that which we feel when we pass a car wreck. You know you're not going to like what you see, but you can't help but look. (in most cases anyway) I also think that there's a part of all of us that just wants to be understood, so we continue to argue our point because from where we're sitting we're doing the right thing. We just keep looking for that tiny bit of common ground from which to create mutual understanding.

Well, either that or it's just because we're enjoying taking the piss.

What doesn't make sense about it? I mean, maybe it doesn't, but what specifically? Of course you make lots of changes when you get married...I'm talking about things that are real incompatibilities.

I've been stayin away from this, but I couldn't let this blatantly sexist comment go. You're using a female name to label a yellow bellied snake. Thats derogatory, and you must not know that many real women to be able to slander our gender that way. Talkin tough and talkin logically are two different things. And men who listen to their mommas make good huspands...as long as momma likes the wife. If momma aint happy, aint nobody happy. There is a good reason for that sayin. You're the only and worst cheerleader we have here at the cellar.

morethanpretty - What did you just call me???

That was as offensive as anything he has said.

Ah, but mine's simply an opinion, simply how I feel about people like him, wheras his is 'EVERYONE SHOULD LISTEN TO ME BECAUSE MY OPINION IS LAW".

I can't help it, I have a natural dislike of machismo and all that. I know not all men suck, but most men I've met do. If it helps, you certainly are intelligent enough to not be the kind of guy I hate.

ooo. let's analyze Ibram next. spill it, dude. Release your demons.

I'm queer, I dont like what I think of as 'typical' men, but love the cool ones, I think of myself almost as much a woman as I do a man, I like nonconforming but not for the sake of nonconformism... I think thats about it.

That's what all the nonconformists say...;)

what's the difference you feel in the fluttery bys when an attractive man walks out, as opposed to the girl? Do think you wanna do the guy first or the girl?


And why?

I have nothing to add here other than I truly laughed out loud when I read your last post noodle. lol

it's a good question! I really want to know. I will regret asking many questions tonight in my um...mood.

Depends who's sexier...

Like, if (70's) Bowie walked out with Angie, I'd be on Bowie in a second. If Jolie came out with Pitt, I'd be on her, Pitt's too macho.

I like really feminine dudes, by a long shot. Androgynous ones are the best, but androgynous guys are, inexplicably, hotter than androgynous girls.

So is it:
2. having both masculine and feminine characteristics.
or
4. neither clearly masculine nor clearly feminine in appearance: the androgynous look of many rock stars.
or both?
i had to look the word up, that makes me ashamed

70's Bowie is one of "many rock stars"...