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sexobon 01-15-2019 07:55 PM

These are the good old days.

Gravdigr 01-16-2019 11:02 AM

God I hope not.

DanaC 01-16-2019 02:46 PM

nsfw language:P



tw 01-16-2019 06:38 PM

What is anyone doing viewing any of this stuff at work. When at work, one works. Even those silly text messages can wait till tonight. That is why they are text messages.

Tories made some non-disclosed deal with a Northern Ireland party to save PM May. Just barely. I don't know why. Her Brexit deal was the most voted against in British History since 1920. Could she be any less competent?

But then it says so much about so many British citizens easily brainwashed into voting for major job losses. Those losses have not even started.

How many hackers so easily manipulated Midlanders into harming their employment and standards of living?

Curious are politics being played by other parties. Nobody is pushing for a second Brexit referendum. For fear of being blamed for the result. So British citizens must be harmed due to total inaction and an incompetent PM. A severe shortage of leadership not just limited to the PM.

Where are people such as Boris Johnson whose only purpose in life was to "wreck shit". And now hides out because he did so much damage. Where are educated British citizens who obviously would have seen that?

Apparently someone sexed up the facts. Then many, who use a penis to think with, voted for Brexit.

It is called adults who think like children. Or the now popular expression, they think with their reptilian brain.

It all gets solved if a second referendum votes to reject Brexit. That is the only good solution. And currently impossible.

DanaC 01-17-2019 02:51 PM

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What is anyone doing viewing any of this stuff at work. When at work, one works. Even those silly text messages can wait till tonight. That is why they are text messages.
Umm...lunch break?

Undertoad 01-17-2019 05:28 PM

A well-rounded employee is valued by enlightened employers; and in competitive labor markets, "work/life balance" is considered an essential selling point.

tw 01-18-2019 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1023438)
A well-rounded employee is valued by enlightened employers; ....

Best for a well rounded employee is to diet. Nothing reduces calorie intake more then vomiting due to reading Trump Tweets.

sexobon 01-18-2019 09:13 PM

Trump Tweets - The Breakfast of Champions

xoxoxoBruce 01-20-2019 06:47 PM

Watch Yvette Cooper, he could change everything.

tw 01-23-2019 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 1023767)
The close relationship between GB and the EU seems to have changed the national character.

Much of that problem is traceable to PM May. Remember, nobody (especially those who wanted to wreck shit by promoting Brexit) wanted the PM job. May was basically a remaining choice. She is rather isolated - does not take outside advise. And is representative of strained relations with the EU.

The Economist describes her:
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Ms May ... could have embraced both sides of the Brexit divide and al parties when deciding how to implement the vote. She could have been up-front with the public about the trade-offs inherent tin Brexit, which always pointed towards messy compromise And she might have discussed options more openly with other EU leaders, knowing they have to agree the terms of any Brexit deal.

Yet she chose to do none of this. Without consulting even her own cabinet she decided in October 2016 to lay down "red lines" for Brexit, which amounted to leaving the single market and customs union, ending the free movement of people and escaping entirely the jurisdiction of European courts.
In short, she decided to make business in Britain more expensive and less competitive.

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Along the way she ignored the advice of experience officials and diplomats, losing her ambassador to the EU. ... Instead she fell back on a coterie of familiar counsellors less knowledgeable about Brussels. She also called an unnecessary election in June 2017, again without consulting colleagues, in which she lost he party's majority, forcing her to rely on support from the DUP, hideously complicating the Brexit negotiations regarding Northern Ireland. And she then conducted the talks largely in secret, not informing her own MPs or even her own Brexit secretary (she is now on her third them) about what she was doing. ...

Yet despite her massive defeat, she refuses to change her red lines, and still believes that something close to her deal is the only one realistically available.
She was never a good PM choice. But Britain' children were told by extremists that Brexit was good Then learned years ago that the Brexit promoters were only seeking political power for self serving gratification. Did not want and were incapable of dealing with the disaster they had created. So May was sucked into the vacuum. Britain has the PM is deserves because so many midlanders were so easily brainwashed by lies.

Only way out is to vote again to reject Brexit. But in politics now flooded in illogical emotions, no leader is willing to call for the only viable alternative. So the British, who have no backbone and who voted for Brexit as children, will suffer less jobs and growth. Already the EU is moving towards other nations and addressing other major and necessary changes. Especially in the East European nations. The Brits will be cut out as if undesirable foreigners. The fundamental strength, that once included Britain, is now concentrating in France and Germany. Because so many British voters were brainwashed by people (ie Boris Johnson) who only wanted to 'wreck shit'.

Griff 01-24-2019 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 1023287)
These are the good old days.

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1023338)
God I hope not.

Well, they are the days we've got...

Gravdigr 01-25-2019 11:52 AM

Yes they are.

tw 02-26-2019 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 1023350)
Curious are politics being played by other parties. Nobody is pushing for a second Brexit referendum. For fear of being blamed for the result. So British citizens must be harmed due to total inaction and an incompetent PM. A severe shortage of leadership not just limited to the PM.

A number of moderates from both parties left due to extremism in both Labour and Conservative parties. Even Tony Blair was quite blunt about the destruction of his party by extremists - who fail to lead even n Brexit. Whose only action is to naysay - offer nothing constructive.

Britain has a severe leadership problem. You can damn well bet that Russian hacker will play (prey) on emotional voters to further harm to the British economy.

henry quirk 03-02-2019 08:27 AM

"Britain has a severe leadership problem."
 
No, Britain has a severe proxy problem, and has for a looooong time.

Proper proxies woulda never allowed the formation of the EU, and proper proxies woulda cleanly severed Britain's connection to the EU when the opportunity was presented.

correction: don't wait for the opportunity, make it happen.

DanaC 03-02-2019 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 1026757)
You can damn well bet that Russian hacker will play (prey) on emotional voters to further harm to the British economy.

Oh they played their part in the referendum campaigns


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