I am less concerned with what Obama wants to do than I am with what Congress is going to do with it as it comes out of committee. And how Congress debates the bill and what process they use to vote on it. Time will tell.
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I get it...same old bullshit and same old lack of cites from you. |
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The same "reconciliation" Republicans used for welfare reform and Bush's $trillion tax cuts.
And still nothing in the budget proposal, or anything put forth by any Democratic member of Congress, to support Will's conclusion about govt run health care and freezing out private insurers. That is a fact as well. |
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Its OK..call me whatever you want. That is what you do best (although you're not very good at it.) It doesnt change the facts....and you still havent cited anything from the Democrats in Congress that would suggest plans for a single payer, government run health care system and driving the private sector out. "We are not Europe. We are not Canada. We need Maybe because its just more conservative bullshit? |
You don't read very well, or you just want to focus on one aspect of Will's commentary. As I stated. I am less concerned with what Obama says he thinks he is going to do as I am with what the final product is going to be coming out of Congress and how they vote on it in the end. {See bold in Will's commentary, which is factual.}
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"We are not Europe. We are not Canada. We need a uniquely American solution. It has to be a partnership of public and private players." -- Sen Max Baucus, the Democrat point man on health reform in Congress.Fact...there is no Democrat plan or even remote suggestion for a single payer, govt run health care system. Do I need to continue to point out the baseless conservative bullshit you post? The only thing factual in that editorial is that the Democrats, like the Republicans before them, may use reconciliation on a health care reform bill...and even that is questionable w/o support of guys like Baucus. |
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http://www.factcheck.org/politics/go...alth_care.html was a good link. I believe that is a more accurate assessment of how they want things to go. But they have not sent it through the grinder of lobbyist and special interest groups in Congress so the final product remains to be seen. And on top of that, how is it going to be paid for by the rest of us with jobs and insurance. |
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It would be nice if the bullshit about a govt run system could be excluded from the debate, but that wont happen. I suspect it will be the Republican talking point throughout....along with talk of "rationing care" and "government taking away choices" and "controlling all health care decisions" for you and me. And as you probably know, from being in the health care system, you and I and the rest of us with jobs and insurance are already paying for the 45+ million uninsured and, for many workers, health care costs are the fastest rising costs they face. Not to mention the impending Medicare explosion as baby boomers drop into the system. Something has to be done to provide affordable and accessible health care for all and someone has to pay. |
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That's the point of this whole change in the system, if it doesn't happen you will pay more, much much more.
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