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Flint 08-09-2007 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rexmons (Post 373368)
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Also, it seems like America, being a more relaxed and idle country has a much larger homosexual population than say China.

There will be fewer openly homosexual individuals in a repressive society. That doesn't mean there are fewer actual homosexuals.

Rexmons 08-09-2007 01:50 PM

you would think homosexualism would be promoted by the government in an over-populated country which puts restrictions on family size. does anyone have a "Homosexual Demographic World Map"? lol

Flint 08-09-2007 01:55 PM

You'll never get accurate numbers on something that people could get their ass kicked, or worse, for admitting to.

DanaC 08-09-2007 02:30 PM

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Also, it seems like America, being a more relaxed and idle country has a much larger homosexual population than say China.
Nope. They're just more accepted and therefore not having to hide it.

Happy Monkey 08-09-2007 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rexmons (Post 373368)
Take into consideration all the bisexuals who can easily choose either sex.

And when you fall in love with someone, someone else could tell you that you could easily choose someone else.

But maybe you couldn't.

Clodfobble 08-09-2007 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rexmons
Also, it seems like America, being a more relaxed and idle country has a much larger homosexual population than say China.

Not according to the US Embassy.

rkzenrage 08-09-2007 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rexmons (Post 373354)
maybe i was being a little vague, I believe homosexuality exists, however i personally do not agree with it. Kind of like someone saying "I don't believe in hitting my children". Does that kind of make sense?

What is wrong with it? Specifically.

piercehawkeye45 08-09-2007 05:37 PM

You can not assume all homosexuality is a choice because a few people have chosen to be homosexuals. If only one person is genetically homosexual you have to assume everyone is until you find out otherwise.

Rexmons 08-10-2007 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 373441)
What is wrong with it? Specifically.


Personally I believe it's both unnatural and unholy.

xoxoxoBruce 08-10-2007 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 373463)
You can not assume all homosexuality is a choice because a few people have chosen to be homosexuals. If only one person is genetically homosexual you have to assume everyone is until you find out otherwise.

But, the $64 question is, what difference does it make in a free country?

piercehawkeye45 08-10-2007 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rexmons (Post 373713)
Personally I believe it's both unnatural and unholy.

Unholy I won't go into but unnatural?

Over 500 species have been found to perform some sort of homosexual behavior, many of them being apes.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15750604/

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
But, the $64 question is, what difference does it make in a free country?

It doesn't until we get into laws. A law has to assume that it is genetic because we are in a republic but individual people can think what they want.

freshnesschronic 08-10-2007 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 373879)
Unholy I won't go into but unnatural?

Over 500 species have been found to perform some sort of homosexual behavior, many of them being apes.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15750604/


True, but aren't mutations flaws in the DNA? And they are abundant in life and species. In fact they are important to evolution. So couldn't being homosexual be a genetic flaw? Not saying it's wrong, just speculating. I kinda agree with unnatural-it doesn't help reproduction, one of the controversial meanings of life.

Happy Monkey 08-10-2007 06:41 PM

  • Mutations are natural.
  • Homosexuality may or may not be a mutation. It could also be reaction to hormone levels in utero, or any number of other causes. It could be a collection of recessive genes working together.
  • It could help reproduction. Not for the person, but for their close genetic relatives.
    • The same gene(s) that cause homosexuality could help reproduction when expressed differently for heterosexuals.
    • In pre-history, gay members may have provided assistance to their family clans that helped propagate the family DNA.

xoxoxoBruce 08-10-2007 08:35 PM

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DNA? Mutations?

bluecuracao 08-12-2007 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic (Post 373887)
I kinda agree with unnatural-it doesn't help reproduction, one of the controversial meanings of life.

I think homosexuality is natural for that very reason. If every human being engaged in relationships for the purpose of reproduction, we'd all have been dining on Soylent Green for quite some time now.


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