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classicman 03-16-2009 08:23 AM

Or build a wall.

TheMercenary 03-16-2009 09:49 AM

Not sure it would help.

Cloud 03-16-2009 10:53 AM

the wall is built. it's a done deal. and no, I don't think it will help much.

classicman 03-16-2009 12:14 PM

Wait when did that happen?

Cloud 03-16-2009 01:08 PM

Border Fence nearly finished: http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_118624...lpasotimes.com

Also, they now have 7000 soldiers in Cd. Juarez. That's a hell of a lot.

http://www.elpasotimes.com/newupdated/ci_11921826

Cloud 03-25-2009 03:21 PM

well, at least now it's getting some press. finally. took them long enough. And Anderson Cooper is supposed to be reporting "live from the border" tonight. Whoop de do.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/03/25/mex...lum/index.html

piercehawkeye45 03-25-2009 04:31 PM

Its on Obama's and Clinton's radar now. Clinton even admits that America's drug use has a large part in this conflict.

I've heard a lot of talk on this and there are some predictions of Obama having to bring not just financial aid to Mexico, but military. If it gets much worse, this plus the immigration issue will most likely explode.

classicman 03-25-2009 04:59 PM

Line the border and stop the influx.




TGRR - where the Heck is the concrete?!?!?!?!

piercehawkeye45 03-25-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 549391)
TGRR - where the Heck is the concrete?!?!?!?!

A wall isn't going to solve the problem. With the amount of trade between the United States and Mexico it would be impossible to inspect all the trucks and cars going in and out so everything would get in and out anyways. Not to mention if you got a few border guards under the paycheck of a drug cartel...

We would be spending billions of dollars on something that will only make it hard to cross the border, not stop. I don't see how that is worth it in any way. The money can be spend in more efficient matter to help solve the same problem.

Lets do the math. 1969 miles * 5280 (ft/mile) * 5 ft (width) * 15 ft (height) * (1ft^3/3^3yd^3) = 2.887e7 cubic yards of concrete.

Assume $70 a cubic yard

So a total cost of $2.02e9 or 2,021,000,000 or 2.021 TRILLION dollars for only the material cost.

Then labor costs come in. That is MUCH more then material costs so you can muliply that by five (maybe more??)

So assuming 10 trillion dollars for an initial cost along with annual maintenance costs it is completely unrealistic.


Other methods would be much more efficient.

classicman 03-25-2009 05:44 PM

lol - PH - we already did the math. Its a joke, sorta.

lookout123 03-25-2009 06:08 PM

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Other methods would be much more efficient.
We could just kill them all I suppose. But then who will mix up my drinks on the beach?

piercehawkeye45 03-25-2009 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 549401)
We could just kill them all I suppose. But then who will mix up my drinks on the beach?

Bitter much?

TheMercenary 03-25-2009 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 549401)
We could just kill them all I suppose. But then who will mix up my drinks on the beach?

I say we adopt the Gurkha Battalions from the Brits and hire them to close the borders. They did a bang up job in HK.

ZenGum 03-25-2009 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 549394)
Then labor costs come in. That is MUCH more then material costs so you can muliply that by five (maybe more??)

Well, we can save on the labour by employing ... ahh ... you know ... illegal imigrant Mexican day-labourers...

xoxoxoBruce 03-26-2009 02:51 AM

You could start by cutting the u. :p


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