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KGZotU 03-10-2007 08:54 AM

It sounds like we've found an area of agreement. (;

Since I apparently was not entirely clear, I did not discuss the actions of Christians for the purpose of focus. Atheists should be righteous, Christians should be righteous, everyone should be righteous. And in a world where any group is not, I understand that this rather challenges the options of the opposition.

--Joe

Toymented 03-10-2007 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by capnhowdy (Post 319971)
What can be GAINED from the denouncement?

To whom will it prove a point?

We aren't 100% sure one way or another, so why take the risk in the event it is true?

Corps...God... and Country.

1. Others will be emboldened, encouraged, and liberated.

2. Some ARE 100% sure!

3. Freedom baby!

rkzenrage 03-10-2007 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 321988)
You have done it by not setting a standard.

Yes, this video can be confrontational and I won't avoid that fact, but it does have some justification. Christians have forced their religion onto everyone and this is just atheists pushing back. I would like to see an atheist go onto national television and briefly explain what atheism is and get rid of the stereotypes but that won't happen because that person would never get aired. It would be like trying to set up a sit in protest when you can't even get into the restaurant.


Exactly, just like you will never hear on television that there are nineteen states where it is illegal to hold office as an atheist.

Jim, did you even read the previous posts or is that a tail-post?

lumberjim 03-10-2007 11:28 PM

I read the whole thread, hammer. did you not understand my point?

rkzenrage 03-12-2007 01:58 AM

No I did not and that is why I asked if you read the thread is because I, and others, stated multiple times that this was not about xians in any way, not for them and has nothing to do with them.
That they do not like the language or anything else to do with the challenge is irrelevant.
It is not for them.

lumberjim 03-12-2007 11:49 AM

really?
Quote:

Originally Posted by your first post in the thread
Do you dare accept the Blasphemy Challenge? Show the world how sure you are that the Christian God doesn't exist! Find out more at http://www.blasphemychallenge.com
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lumberjim 03-12-2007 11:51 AM

anyway, my point was that blasphemy is only blasphemy if you actually do believe.

piercehawkeye45 03-12-2007 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 322471)
anyway, my point was that blasphemy is only blasphemy if you actually do believe.

It is accepted as a society that God does exists so it would be blasphemy on sociological sense and not personal which is the point of the video.

lumberjim 03-12-2007 01:53 PM

so, then it's just being shitty. ok. have fun with it.

rkzenrage 03-12-2007 01:57 PM

Exactly, but the egocentric are going to always see the world filtered through themselves and cannot see it any way else.
"This is about me because I choose for it to be. I choose to be offended, so it is offensive".

HungLikeJesus 03-13-2007 09:43 AM

I don't understand why people have to say nasty things about religion. What harm has religion ever done? (Can we keep politics out of it, and not mention Iraq, or Isreal, or the whole Middle East for that matter?)

Pie 03-13-2007 11:58 AM

Politics frequently is religion, and vice versa. But I'm sure you know that. :eyebrow:

piercehawkeye45 03-13-2007 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 322695)
I don't understand why people have to say nasty things about religion. What harm has religion ever done? (Can we keep politics out of it, and not mention Iraq, or Isreal, or the whole Middle East for that matter?)

Ask homosexuals or any other minority what religion has done.

I don't mind religion at its base, just when people start forcing their religion on other people is when I start getting annoyed of it.

Flint 03-13-2007 02:52 PM

Suppressing science and knowledge, casting the world into a dark age... hmmm, who was that again?

Trilby 03-13-2007 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 322753)
Suppressing science and knowledge, casting the world into a dark age... hmmm, who was that again?

You?


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