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Sundae 10-25-2006 01:42 PM

Monster explained far more eloquently than me - this form of traffic control is both common and WELL SIGNED in the UK.

These drivers were determined to enter the restricted area regardless.
I feel as much sympathy for them as I do for drink drivers.
Would they have changed their actions knowing the actual outcome? Of course they would. But it's the chance of "getting away with it" that drives them (pardon the pun)

Better this lesson learned now I think.

Happy Monkey 10-25-2006 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
Who, or what, are you arguing with: your own posts, or reality itself?

Neither. I was responding to your faulty premise.

If nobody tried to go there, they wouldn't put up a barrier. But they did put up a barrier, therefore there was a reason for people to try to sneak their cars through.

Flint 10-25-2006 01:46 PM

And what is the reason for people to sneak their cars down service paths at parks?
Do you suggest that if no reason exists, then the observed barriers are holograms or hallucinations?

Flint 10-25-2006 02:17 PM

Automated Bollards:
 
The standard raise time is 6 seconds but can be accelerated for Emergency Fast Operation to 2 seconds.

Happy Monkey 10-25-2006 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
And what is the reason for people to sneak their cars down service paths at parks?
Do you suggest that if no reason exists, then the observed barriers are holograms or hallucinations?

Now you're doing what you constantly complain others do to you, and putting words in others' mouths.

I suggest that reasons exist where barriers are observed. The reason is specific to the individual road.

Sundae 10-25-2006 02:26 PM

Bollards are a legal moveable obstruction which amongst other objectives help to protect pedestrians

This is a (UK) Government webiste

Shawnee123 10-25-2006 02:29 PM

From Flint's website post:

Hot dip galvanised to BS1461 - Will not look unsightly
Well, it's good to know they're attractive, too. :rolleyes:

From Sundae's website:

Positioning
Rising bollards should not normally be sited close to or at signalled junctions or pedestrian crossings
.

Flint 10-25-2006 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey
Now you're doing what you constantly complain others do to you, and putting words in others' mouths.

But...I used a question mark... . . .

Happy Monkey 10-25-2006 02:31 PM

Bollards? Hee hee! Now I get why Rumpole called Soapy Sam "Bollard"; he was calling him a roadblock!

Flint 10-25-2006 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl
This is a (UK) Government webiste

"Whilst most applications will be to enable the passage of one vehicle at a time, there will be instances where two or more vehicles attempt to pass through in close succession. The system should ensure that bollards cannot rise beneath a vehicle because of the danger this would create. It is better to risk a certain amount of violation by "tailgating" vehicles, rather that put road users at risk."

BigV 10-25-2006 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
Arlington, Texas. We don't drive on the sidewalk, or walk in the middle of the road.

How in the world do you cross the street? Bridges at every intersection? Jet packs? Teleportation?

And where are your garages? In the middle of the street?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
Just catch up with everybody else and "get" the damn reference.

There are places where the vehicles are not allowed. The parameters vary, time, location, private, public, service, etc.

Perhaps you would prefer this:
http://cellar.org/attachment.php?att...1&d=1107004314

Flint 10-25-2006 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV
How in the world do you cross the street?

We have something called a "crosswalk" which consists of stripes painted on the road. It seems to work just fine.
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV
And where are your garages?

On private property.

glatt 10-25-2006 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
"Whilst most applications will be to enable the passage of one vehicle at a time, there will be instances where two or more vehicles attempt to pass through in close succession. The system should ensure that bollards cannot rise beneath a vehicle because of the danger this would create. It is better to risk a certain amount of violation by "tailgating" vehicles, rather that put road users at risk."

Good find!

These bollards are in violation of the government guidelines. Also:

If you have someone there anyway, why not have it be a cop directing traffic and writing tickets? Much safer.

Flint 10-25-2006 02:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt
These bollards are in violation of the government guidelines.


Happy Monkey 10-25-2006 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
But...I used a question mark... . . .

It's fine with me that you did it, and hopefully now it will be fine with you when others do it.


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