FWIW - thats pretty common hereabouts too. Personally, I have neighbors that are doing that on combined incomes under 100k many less than 70k.

You rebels you! ... :thumbsup:

That is what ours is, a little higher but close.

They pay 500k in a lot of places in Calif for a cardboard box. Another good reason to live in the SE.

A cardboard box? LUXURY! When I was a lad we lived for three years in the shadow of a hole in the road and trucks would ....


sorry.

Yea, well when I lived in that hole in the lake, now that was some tough times!

I lived in the center of a volcano once. I was finally shot out of it, and landed here on the cellar. Now water comes out of taps!! Good times!! :)

urdoinitrong

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Sorry, but a corporation is there to supply a service or product to the public, and jobs to people. Shareholders profits should come after the people doing the work are actually compensated fairly for that work. If it weren't for the workers, there would be no product - no product, no profit. without workers, they go out of business.

Why would they have to work as volunteers? I believe doctors and nurses and others in medicine make a very comfortable living in other countries that have a single payer system. Why should medicine be about profit? You see where it's gotten us?

I'm talking about the top 2%. You are talking about average rich people with jobs instead of empires. If the progressive tax system was not riddled with loopholes it would be a very fair system. And so what? Why do hate the majority of the people in this country?

If you have a family, then you should know how much insurance costs. AVERAGE insurance policies for an individual are over 5k/year, and for a family average over $15k/year. Even people who make $50k-60k/year would have trouble paying that, depending on where they live.

Maybe, maybe not. Hard work means nothing. If executive pay keeps rising the way it has, and nothing is done to address the wages of everyone else, even your job might be outsourced, or insourced, to cheaper workers.

See, I never said everyone should get the same, and if you think I did, you haven't been listening. When you make more, you do keep more, even if you pay more in taxes, because you are making a much larger slice of the pie. And if you think people are rewarded simply for hard/smart work in this country, think again. There are tens of millions of really smart people out there, working really hard, who are completely taken advantage of and not paid fairly, which is why I am for unions.

It could have. You were lucky. It is happening a lot more now than in the past. It has gotten much worse over the years.

I never said all Americans should achieve the same level of success or have all the same things. You keep putting those words in my mouth, and nowhere have I said that. But by the same token, it also isn't the Constitution that people should get obscenely rich while walking all over everyone else. They wanted a more equal and fair society. That doesn't mean completely equal in the sense that everyone has the same things. Corporations were not meant to have the power they have now.

heh. I am, but since we have medicine, why should only people with means have access to it? ;) Natural selection would apply to everyone, the way I think of it. That means even rich people wouldn't have access to any treatment they couldn't do themselves.

Because medicine is a product and service like anything else. If you want things, whatever those things are, you need to work for them.

Medicine should not a be a product/service like every other product/service. We can just agree to disagree on that point because I can see where that argument is going.

Dream on ya hippie. The corp/company is there to MAKE MONEY. Whatever they do that is the primary goal.
Really? I have no idea, but many do come here too.
Where has medicine for profit gotten us? Please elaborate.
How much does the "average rich" person make?
False. I pay for my own (ee+fam on a two tier system) and its about $432 a month - you do the math. Its an HMO with a very large company.

I agree with Jinx.

When I snap my fingers you will open your eyes slowly. Take a deep breath... did you feel like you were dreaming? I don't know what planet you are from but companies are not public service organizations. They exist to make a profit above all else. If they do, then employees will benefit.
If you have a family, then you should know how much insurance costs. AVERAGE insurance policies for an individual are over 5k/year, and for a family average over $15k/year.I do know. I am self employed and pay my own way.

the problem here is that you think income is a pie. That implies that it is zero sum. If I make 10% more someone has to make that much less. That isn't how it works. If I make more it is because I provided a service to more people. That service isn't robbing them of anything, in truth it is adding something to them. They win, I win. Then the beautiful thing is I take my new higher income and spend a bit of it, thus increasing the income of another service provider. One person getting rich does not necessitate another getting poor.

But that money you take as income, you could have used to buy turkeys and taken them up in a helicopter and let them fly to the poor starving people at the mall.