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spudcon 07-11-2009 11:13 PM

I feel very secure knowing that Joe Biden is just a heartbeat away. I'm sure he's much more qualified than someone who actually accomplished something. Or is being governor of the largest state in the union not important. And have we forgotten that her state had a surplus, while every state with a liberal governor has driven them into massive deficits? Not bad for a glassy eyed Bible thumper.

xoxoxoBruce 07-11-2009 11:17 PM

The only reason Alaska had a surplus is the oil revenues are so large, and the population of politicians too small, to steal it all.

Kitsune 07-12-2009 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by spudcon (Post 580962)
Or was being governor of the largest state in the union not important.

Fixed that for you.

Happy Monkey 07-12-2009 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by spudcon (Post 580962)
Or is being governor of the largest state in the union not important.

Arnold?

Palin will have been governor of the 47th largest state.

Shawnee123 07-12-2009 11:59 AM

Heheheh.

spudcon 07-12-2009 10:24 PM

I wouldn't be bragging about Arnold's state. It's bankrupt. And here's your link repaired.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...tories_by_area

spudcon 07-12-2009 10:28 PM

And surplus of oil? The entire country has a surplus of oil. The difference is, Alaskans have enough guts to drill. And the politicians were trying to steal it, but Palin took them out. Obviously MSNBC and CNN didn't bother reporting that.

xoxoxoBruce 07-13-2009 12:04 AM

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The Alaskans had the guts to drill? C'mon gimme a fuckin break. :lol2:
Every bit of the oil and the drilling is on Federal land, they had no say in the matter. The state didn't put up a dime, the oil companies paid for everything including the pipeline and ports, Alaska is reaping the benefits from. Not only employment but a check every year to every state resident big enough to More than pay their state taxes.

Aside, the pipe and heavy equipment came from Japan and that's where the oil goes, to pay for all those Sonys and Toyotas.

Happy Monkey 07-13-2009 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by spudcon (Post 581114)
I wouldn't be bragging about Arnold's state. It's bankrupt. And here's your link repaired.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...tories_by_area

My link was fine. You don't govern acres.

spudcon 07-13-2009 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 581154)
My link was fine. You don't govern acres.

Check Bruce's post above.

tw 07-13-2009 10:44 AM

Reasons for Palin's resignation are due to a cacophony of details - quoted here in the same disjointed way that those details have apparently conspired to change her life. From the NY Times of 12 Jul 2009:
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Palin’s Route to Resignation: Missteps and Ignored Advice
Sarah Palin was beset by such political and personal turmoil that some powerful supporters determined an intervention was needed to pull her governorship, and her national future, back from the brink. ...

Nick Ayers, arrived with a memorandum containing firm counsel, ... Make a long-term schedule and stick to it, have staff members set aside ample and inviolable family time to replenish your spirits, and build a coherent home-state agenda that creates jobs and ensures re-election. ... it appeared to be happily received and then largely discarded, ...

Almost as soon as she returned home, the once-popular governor was isolated from an increasingly critical Legislature. Lawmakers who had supported her signature effort to develop a natural gas pipeline turned into uncooperative critics.

Ethics complaints mounted, and legal bills followed. At home Ms. Palin was dealing with a teenage daughter who had given birth to a son and broken up with the infant’s father, a baby of her own with special needs and a national news media that was eager to cover it all.

Friends worried that she appeared anxious and underweight. Her hair had thinned ... Yet to the dismay of some advisers, Ms. Palin dived into the fray, seeming to relish the tabloid-ready fights ... his assertion that Ms. Palin had known the unwed high-schoolers were having sex all along. ...

But now, Ms. Palin had fewer defenders to lend support. ... Her growing list of detractors quickly signaled that they were not impressed with her celebrity status. ... When Ms. Palin made it back to Alaska in November, the state that had once given her an 83 percent approval rating was no longer so enchanted. ...

By all accounts, Ms. Palin became consumed with the complaints, no matter how small-bore — which many were — or where they came from. ... “Ethics Complaint on Governor’s Apparel Dismissed.” ... a Republican lawmaker, State Representative Mike Hawker, to accuse Ms. Palin of underfinancing sexual abuse programs.

... the swine flu, Ms. Palin skipped a briefing for administration officials on the outbreak by her chief medical officer, ... at the time the governor was meeting with top staff on the issue of federal stimulus funds. ...

Amid all the turmoil, Ms. Palin’s enthusiasm for the job itself seemed to be waning, her office appointment books from January 2007 through this May indicate. Since her return from the national campaign her days have typically started later and ended earlier, and the number of meetings with local legislators and mayors has declined.

... Paparazzi regularly stalked the family, once ambushing Bristol Palin ... If Bristol Palin was avoiding the limelight, her estranged boyfriend was seeking it. ...

Barbara Walters and Oprah Winfrey’s producer called with interview requests. She fielded lucrative book deals, ultimately accepting one estimated to be in the millions of dollars. A veteran television producer proposed a “West Wing” meets “Northern Exposure” reality show about her. Out-of-state political trips were flashbacks to the presidential campaign. Crowds chanted, “Run, Sarah, Run!”

... she expressed concern about her personal finances and complained that whenever she left Alaska “there was tremendous criticism up there.” ... the Palins seemed unprepared for the national stage. “I don’t think they got it, that they were in the arena,” ...

While the defense fund has raised more than $250,000, according to its trustee, the money cannot be spent pending resolution of an ethics complaint that contends that the contributions could amount to improper gifts. ...

Mr. Malek said he told Ms. Palin that “you have got to set up a mechanism so you can return calls.” “You are getting a bad rap,” ... “Important people are trying to talk to you. And she said, ‘What number are they calling?’ She did not know what had been happening.” ...

Hope for the intervention’s success soon faded. Despite advice to stick close to home and focus on an Alaska agenda, the governor accepted an invitation to attend an anti-abortion dinner in Indiana in April, even though the state budget was hanging in the balance in the Legislature.

When Tom Wright, chief of staff for the speaker of the Alaska House, suggested that the governor would catch heat for leaving, Ms. Palin stormed into his office and, according to a person familiar with the conversation, “proceeded to ream him out.”
One other factor apparent in all these examples is a disconnect between Palin and her staff. They appear to be somewhat uninformed and therefore largely disorganized.

sugarpop 07-13-2009 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by spudcon (Post 580962)
I feel very secure knowing that Joe Biden is just a heartbeat away. I'm sure he's much more qualified than someone who actually accomplished something. Or is being governor of the largest state in the union not important. And have we forgotten that her state had a surplus, while every state with a liberal governor has driven them into massive deficits? Not bad for a glassy eyed Bible thumper.

Alaska's entire population is less than 1 million people, so arguing that she was governor of the largest state is outrageously disingenuous. Most large cities have more people than the entire state of Alaska.

And Joe Biden has extensive foreign policy experience, which Sarah Palin has none. Seeing Russia from Alaska doesn't really count.

TheMercenary 07-13-2009 10:54 AM

Gov of the largest state by land area.

1 Alaska 663,267
2 Texas 268,581
3 California 163,696
4 Montana
5 New Mexico
6 Arizona
7 Nevada
8 Colorado
9 Oregon
10 Wyoming
11 Michigan
12 Minnesota
13 Utah
14 Idaho
15 Kansas
16 Nebraska
17 South Dakota
18 Washington
19 North Dakota
20 Oklahoma
21 Missouri
22 Florida
23 Wisconsin
24 Georgia
25 Illinois
26 Iowa
27 New York
28 North Carolina
29 Arkansas
30 Alabama
31 Louisiana
32 Mississippi
33 Pennsylvania
34 Ohio
35 Virginia
36 Tennessee
37 Kentucky
38 Indiana
39 Maine
40 South Carolina
41 West Virginia
42 Maryland
43 Hawaii
44 Massachusetts
45 Vermont
46 New Hampshire
47 New Jersey
48 Connecticut
49 Delaware
50 Rhode Island

TheMercenary 07-13-2009 10:56 AM

By population Calif is number 1, AK is number 47.

By personal income Calif is number 7, AK is number 42.

Fun facts which don't change the fact that Caif is bankrupt and a shinning example of how socialist states fail. :D

dar512 07-13-2009 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 580936)
Never, ever, ever, ever underestimate the stupidity of bible-thumpers, rednecks, hillbillies, and assholes who vote for people like Bush or Palin.

And never overestimate the intelligence of libertarians who like to pigeon-hole people.


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