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Cloud 12-08-2009 11:12 AM

"Obama says" take a moment to be a dad!

Cicero 12-08-2009 02:34 PM

There are clues (what can we make of these?):

http://www.cellar.org/showpost.php?p...4&postcount=20

TheMercenary 12-08-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 615927)
"Obama says" take a moment to be a dad!

Awesome Idea! If you have kids. What about all those role models who are males that don't have kids? They are the ones that need to think about that the most IMHO. Black Americans need good male role models.

DanaC 12-08-2009 05:38 PM

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Black Americans need good male role models.
Like Obama?

TheMercenary 12-08-2009 05:48 PM

Absolutely. But he is hardly enough. Obama is a fantastic contribution to half white half black Americans. And I think he does much to supress the overt disdain that many people have for mixed marriges. That can't be anything but good for America in the long run.

toranokaze 12-08-2009 09:11 PM

Part of what makes this difficult is defining things that a purely masculine. For example

Homeovestism.

I know what a woman would wear, but what would a man wear.

xoxoxoBruce 12-09-2009 01:30 AM

A man should wear a condom and a large caliber handgun.

Oh, and if he's having sex, spurs.

Griff 12-09-2009 05:31 AM

Apparently being a man means women on the internet will tell you what it means?

ZenGum 12-09-2009 06:14 AM

Bruce, you cook my haggis.

ZenGum 12-09-2009 06:24 AM

This one

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Selfless Service
Put the welfare of the Nation, the Army, and your subordinates before your own.
appeals to me a lot as a military virtue.
I absolutely despise commanders and generals who do not care for and value their troops.
Caesar, while conquering Gaul, refused to let his men engage the enemy in battle in certain circumstances. His men challenged him, why won't you let us fight them? He explained that they did not have as much of a strategic advantage as he believed they could get by some more maneuvering, and he didn't want to lose any of them unless he really couldn't help it. I'm sure he said it better, and in Latin, but that was the general point.

By contrast, compare some comments from WWI generals: "What do you mean, we've only lost eight thousand men today? The plan was to lose ten thousand! Send two thousand more!"
Examples abound. Patton's behaviour in Sicily was just as bad, sending a division into battle merely to prevent it from being transferred to a different general (against orders).

xoxoxoBruce 12-09-2009 10:30 AM

Ah, but Patton was sure they could win.
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Patton inspired a unique loyalty and spirit in his men that enabled his troops to win quicker and with fewer casualties than everyone else.

skysidhe 12-12-2009 08:29 PM

Knowing that women use the love word loosely.


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