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Gravdigr 09-23-2015 10:01 AM

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Selfies kill more people than sharks.

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Waitwhut?

Clodfobble 09-23-2015 03:02 PM

Good.

I mean, uh, that was probably not the nicest thing to say, I'm sure I meant something nicer. Let me get back to you on that.

Undertoad 09-24-2015 07:44 AM

Knee jerk assumptions department: after 50 years of cleaning up vehicle engine emissions, what's worse for the environment: a 6210cc engine Ford F150 truck, or a 30cc engine leaf blower?

Not even close.

http://cellar.org/2015/leafbloweremissions.jpg

In fact the car and truck actually cleaned the air:

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Only by measuring what goes into and out of the vehicle and comparing the differences can the vehicle's contribution to emissions be accurately assessed.

Here's why you should care. When the Raptor (and the Fiat) was running Phase 2 of its tests on the dyno, it was cleaning the air of hydrocarbons. Yes, there were actually fewer hydrocarbons in the Raptor's exhaust than in the air it — and we — breathed. In the Raptor's case, the ambient air contained 2.821 ppm of total hydrocarbons, and the amount of total hydrocarbons coming out the Raptor's tailpipe measured 2.639 ppm.

So if you want to go green, ditch the yard equipment and blow leaves using a Raptor.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/f...af-blower.html

Happy Monkey 09-30-2015 11:11 AM

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngu...9/badgraph.jpg

Remarkably dishonest graph. The two lines are on completely different vertical scales, which would be somewhat dishonest if both scales were labeled and started at zero, and more dishonest if they were labeled and did not start at zero. This is worse - unlabeled, and different start points, so both the position and slope of the lines is completely arbitrary. 900000 < 300000? The pink line goes down (by the numbers) about 50%, but the slope of the line is about the same as the brown line, which goes up a bit over 10%?

And why cancer screenings? It's not like Planned Parenthood only does cancer screenings and abortions. Answer - because cancer screenings have been downplayed in recent years, and decreasing them has been suggested by major medical groups. So it's one of the few things they do that has gone down over that period.

And, related to both issues above - they only took two data points, 2006 and 2013, but put all of the intervening years on the horizontal scale. This makes it seem as if the rates were (at least somewhat) constant. A more granular line might (note that I haven't actually seen a more granular version, so this is hypothetical) show, for example, the year(s) that cancer screening policies might have changed, which would lead to explanations.

xoxoxoBruce 09-30-2015 11:18 AM

I'd suspect with Obamacare, more poor women have insurance coverage which will cover many of the things they use to get from a Planned Parenthood clinic.

Lamplighter 09-30-2015 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 940485)

HappyMonkey accurately describes this graph.
It's important to follow the 2 links.

It was presented during Congressional Hearings (yesterday) on Planned Parenthood
--- and falsely presented as being from "Planned Parenthood's Quarterly Report".

But Ms Richards (CEO of PP) countered that the source was actually
the anti-abortion group shown at the bottom of HM's posting.

It was quite an embarrassing moment for Chairman Chaffetz.

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xoxoxoBruce 09-30-2015 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 940505)
It was quite an embarrassing moment for Chairman Chaffetz.

I'm surprised, I didn't think those clowns ever got embarrassed by their fellow clowns antics anymore. :rolleyes:

xoxoxoBruce 10-01-2015 01:15 AM

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WaPo charts what kind of dwelling people live in, single, attached(row and town), multi-units, or mobiles.

Lamplighter 10-01-2015 09:40 AM

That is interesting to me. Do you have a link ?

I have issues comparing things just based on %.
That is, LA is spread out over an enormous area, compared with most other cities.
Also, the % of LA housing of >50 units doesn't seem right
compared with my image of an eastern city like Philadelphia.

Sorting the cities by size might be more informative.

Lamplighter 10-01-2015 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 940521)
I'm surprised, I didn't think those clowns ever got embarrassed by their fellow clowns antics anymore. :rolleyes:

Kevin McCarthy thought that what happens on Fox News stays on Fox News.

Oooooops ~

Gail Collins - The Opinion Pages: NY Times - 10/1/15
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“Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right?
But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee.
What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping,”

Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy bragged to Sean Hannity on Fox News.
McCarthy is hoping to succeed John Boehner as speaker,
and he’s probably nervous about all the praise Boehner
has been getting lately for evenhanded leadership.

McCarthy’s remarks sounded awful to innocent bystanders
— aren’t these things supposed to at least pretend to be fair?


xoxoxoBruce 10-01-2015 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 940588)
That is interesting to me. Do you have a link ?

Sure, http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/w...-city-charted/
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I have issues comparing things just based on %.
% of each type of dwelling in each city, is the point. Population is irrelevant. Occams razor.
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That is, LA is spread out over an enormous area, compared with most other cities.
Also, the % of LA housing of >50 units doesn't seem right
compared with my image of an eastern city like Philadelphia.
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Originally Posted by WaPo
L.A., for its part, is often described as a poster child for sprawl (an accusation aimed at both the city itself and the broader metropolitan area). But L.A. is actually one of the denser places in America, thanks to its many modest-scale multi-family buildings.

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Sorting the cities by size might be more informative.
See answer #2 above.

Lamplighter 10-01-2015 12:55 PM

I'm still having a hard time with that link's description of LA.
It seems to be based on a sub-link to the following article...

Measuring Sprawl
A New Index, Recent Trends, and Future Research

Urban Affairs Review Thomas Laidley 33/2/15

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... In fact, six of the top 10 least sprawling metros in the country are in California:
L.A., San Francisco, San Jose, Salinas, Santa Barbara and San Diego.
Seven of ten are on the West Coast. Outside of that, Chicago ranks seventh and,
also surprisingly, auto-oriented Miami is tenth.

The East Coast metros of Philadelphia, Boston and D.C. all fail to make the top 10 list.
I'm not quite believing this either.
It just doesn't fit what I remember about LA, SF, SJ and SD,
as compared with Chicago and Boston from my lifetime living
and working in or around those areas.

I'd love to be on this sociology student's Doctorial Thesis Committee.
[OJ] If it doesn't fit, you can't convict. [/OJ] :rolleyes:

xoxoxoBruce 10-01-2015 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 940619)
I'd love to be on this sociology student's Doctorial Thesis Committee.

I'll bet you would, how dare his facts and measurements not match you opinion and remembered perceptions.
Torches and pitchforks! String him up, hound him out of academia.
We won't acquit, 'cause he don't fit, we'll box his ears, the little shit.

Undertoad 10-07-2015 11:15 PM

Map of anthropogenic CO2 emissions

http://cellar.org/2015/co2-anthro-emissions.jpg

Undertoad 10-07-2015 11:17 PM

but that is neither a graph nor a chart.


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