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orthodoc 09-05-2013 09:32 PM

What is whiting?

Clodfobble 09-05-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 875302)
No, I haven't. Wouldn't I have gut pain or something when I eat bread? My guts are normal.

I'm just skinny with slightly elevated blood sugar.

Not necessarily. I think it's estimated that as many as 40% of cases are "silent celiac," meaning no obvious GI symptoms. Secondary symptoms can be anything from grayish/yellowing teeth, to persistent high cholesterol despite an ostensibly healthy diet, to neurological problems, to skin rashes. It's very hard to pin down.

orthodoc 09-05-2013 09:56 PM

Are there studies that link yellow teeth, high cholesterol, neurological problems (what neuro issues, exactly?) and skin rashes (again, which rashes specifically?) to biopsy-proven celiac disease? If there are no GI symptoms, how does anyone assert that these other phenomena are associated with celiac?

I've followed the literature regarding leaky gut and schizophrenia and autism for personal reasons. Just wondering about the scientific support for these postulated associations with celiac, as opposed to anecdotal reports.

Clodfobble 09-05-2013 10:05 PM

Absolutely. These are all known symptoms. The primary diagnosis tool for celiac is the detection of anti-gliadin antibodies in the bloodstream. This is often confirmed with a secondary, more reliable but more invasive diagnostic tool of endoscopic biopsy. Even those without outward GI symptoms still have the deformed villi internally, and they don't know why some don't have noticeable GI symptoms despite the internal damage. The skin rash associated with celiac is called dermatitis herpetiformis. Some forms are severe, but sometimes it is mild enough to be misdiagnosed as eczema. I'm on my phone now, but I can dig up a variety of studies on my real computer tomorrow morning if you want.

Sundae 09-06-2013 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by orthodoc (Post 875324)
What is whiting?

Over here it's fish. Almost definitely the same in Oz.

Aliantha 09-06-2013 03:48 AM

Yep, its a fairly common fish here. Nice sweet white flesh. Good for tempura type cooking. Daryl prefers it crumbed.

chrisinhouston 09-06-2013 09:11 AM

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I made a lasagna last night. We don't do it often but it's a great way to use up veggies and whatever you have if you aren't too caught up on only doing traditional recipes.

I used jar sauce as I was too busy to make it from scratch and ended up with alternating layers of flat pasta sheets, sauce, ricotta, spinach, baby portabello mushrooms, Italian sausage, paper thin sliced zucchini, mozzarella and Parmesan cheese.

The big challenge is that due to our kitchen remodeling project I don't have an oven inside anymore so I use a propane smoker box outside which gets quite hot like an oven. Only problem is I can't fit some of my larger baking pans into the box as it the shelves are about 13 inches square. I also have a big gas grill and a charcoal burning ceramic grill (Big Green Egg) and do still have a gas cooktop inside.

glatt 09-06-2013 10:43 AM

Is it difficult hitting a target temperature with that thing and keep close to it?

In my indoor oven, the temperature fluctuates by 50 degrees. Set it for 300, and the temperature goes up to 325 and the gas turns off, then it slowly drops down to 275 before the gas kicks on again. It cycles like that through the entire baking process. I watched it one time with a thermocouple on a multimeter.

Do you just adjust the gas valve to get a low steady flame to maintain a temp on that thing?

chrisinhouston 09-06-2013 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 875363)
Is it difficult hitting a target temperature with that thing and keep close to it?

Do you just adjust the gas valve to get a low steady flame to maintain a temp on that thing?

It's taken a bit of experimenting to get to where I feel confident. Ideally as a smoker you would get it to 200-225 and let it do it's thing, it has a pan for wet wood chips. I turn on the propane tank and then the smoker and get it up to 400 or so. Then I put in what I am cooking and drop the heat control valve a bit. Since what I put in is cold it drops it to 350 or so and I just check it a few times over the next 10-15 minutes which isn't hard as I can look out the back kitchen window and see the thermometer on the door. I just adjust the valve on the smoker for the burner as needed.

The only time it gets real squirrely is if we have had a lot of rain or it is raining hard. The humidity seems to make it harder to get up to temperature.

So far I've baked pies, casseroles and roasted whole chickens with pretty good success. I also bake sweet potatoes and other vegetable dishes in it. We got a big crock pot when my mother in law down sized and I had never had one before but use it now for things I used to slow cook/braise in the oven before it died. When we tore out all the old kitchen cabinets to start our redo I had set our oven on a temporary stand and used it but then it died and was too expensive to bother fixing as it was 12 years old. I actually sold it on Craig's list as is for $80 which surprised me.

Sundae 09-07-2013 02:28 AM

I think of this thread when ignorant people make comments about the oxymoron that is "American cuisine".
The sad thing is that some of these people are intelligent and educated.

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 875342)
Yep, its a fairly common fish here. Nice sweet white flesh. Good for tempura type cooking. Daryl prefers it crumbed.

I read that as crumbled. Twice.
But I'm making apple & blackberry crumble tomorrow, so maybe it's on my crumbled mind.

limey 09-09-2013 01:14 PM

We were busy yesterday so had roast beef today (from the local butcher - excellent as usual!). With baby beets, tiny 'tatoes and bits of collosal carrot from a very local market garden (4 miles away). I did the veg in the slow cooker (=crockpot) for 3 hours on hot, wrapped in foil parcels so they cooked in their own steam and they were Teh Yum (TM), too!

chrisinhouston 09-10-2013 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by limey (Post 875565)
We were busy yesterday so had roast beef today (from the local butcher - excellent as usual!). With baby beets, tiny 'tatoes and bits of collosal carrot from a very local market garden (4 miles away). I did the veg in the slow cooker (=crockpot) for 3 hours on hot, wrapped in foil parcels so they cooked in their own steam and they were Teh Yum (TM), too!

I'm always amazed at the quality of meat from local butchers in other nations since we mostly just have the mass produced supermarket meat here in the USA. When we were in Wales early last year and then in Australia later on I routinely popped into the butcher's shop ever few days to pick up something and was never dissapointed.

fargon 09-10-2013 10:33 AM

My local market Quillin's Has a fresh meat market in it. They have locally produced beef from Mn., pork from Ia., and chicken from Wi. It is a small little place with high prices, and no selection but we go there at least twice a week sometimes more often, because we would hate to see it close. And it is so convenient.

limey 09-10-2013 10:56 AM

And yesterday I found fresh local rabbit there. I haven't eaten rabbit since last century! (It's currently being "jugged" in the slow cooker, in preparation for being a Wabbit Pie tomorrow :yum:

fargon 09-10-2013 12:00 PM

I have a Amish raised chicken of about 3 lbs. It needs to be cooked today, and I have no idea about what to do with it. As far as flavoring, it will be backed since it will be to hot this afternoon to smoke it.

HELP ME MR. WIZARD!!!


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