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infinite monkey 09-13-2013 10:31 AM

Laugh-In?

Lamplighter 09-13-2013 10:43 AM

No, it was two brothers...

Sorry, gotta go now...

infinite monkey 09-13-2013 10:45 AM

SMOTHERS BROTHERS

Lamplighter 09-13-2013 01:08 PM

IM, The Smothers Brothers Show ... YES

This bit about "ribbit" has an important place in TV censorship
and the U.S. anti-war protest movement of the 60's and 70's

This my version of it's history, much of it from memory, some from later reading
about the battle the Smothers Brothers had with CBS and censorship of TV at the time.

It started with a simple skit on the Show with frogs sitting around a pond
saying "ribbit" in background rhythm to some song that Tom and Dick were singing.
This skit evolved into several versions to fit with whatever "shtick" they were doing that week.
Tom and Dick appeared in "frog" costumes, and the "ribbit" was a running joke
as it replaced "croak" and became a part of American culture.

Then later, as Tom & Dick, the writers, and guests got into their feud/war
with the CBS censors, the "ribbit" took on a different role.

The show became highly political and the writers would deliberately
insert things they knew/hoped with be cut by CBS censors.
They would set up a joke where the audience could anticipate
the punch line, but then would substitute "ribbit".
The audiences loved it and the censors were infuriated, in part
because CBS had contractually given the Smothers artistic control over their Show.
Of course, CBS finally terminated the show in 1969.

Those shows on YouTube have now been deleted... maybe due to copy write.
But there are references to scripts in libraries about "ribbit",
especially one episode in 1968 (8 - 62), but even these have been deleted from the links.

infinite monkey 09-13-2013 02:18 PM

That's really interesting. I had no idea.

I have recollections of The Smothers Brothers Show. I thought Tom was so cute (I thought Jim Stafford was cute too, so what are you gonna do? My grandma and I watched that together sometimes.)

I was born in '64 so I have very vague recollections. Was it ever shown in re-run?

Gravdigr 09-13-2013 02:25 PM

Michigan J. Frog didn't 'ribbit'. He croaked. Before he died, I mean. I assume he's dead, he may still be in that box, for all I know.

It's the higher-pitched frog sounds (like tree frogs) that are associated with 'ribbit'.

infinite monkey 09-13-2013 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 875984)
Michigan J. Frog didn't 'ribbit'. He croaked. Before he died, I mean. I assume he's dead, he may still be in that box, for all I know.

Au contraire, mon frère:

The man in the original cartoon, who discovered the frog in the cornerstone of an 1892 building under demolition, tosses Michigan and the green metal box he came in into the time capsule for the Tregoweth Brown Building, a soon-to-be dedicated skyscraper. In 2056, when a construction company (consisting of men in spacesuits) razes the building with disintegration guns, another person (very similar to the first, but bald) discovers the metal box, with Michigan still alive inside, and the process repeats.

~wiki

Gravdigr 09-13-2013 03:26 PM

OK, so he didn't croak...but, he didn't ribbit either.

infinite monkey 09-13-2013 03:31 PM

No one ever said he did, liebchen. my answer was incorrect.

And as I said before, it is onomatopoeia. Ain't no frogs actually 'say' ribbit.

The cow don't even 'say' fucking moo. k? ;)

lumberjim 09-13-2013 09:53 PM

Cows say Merrrrrrrr!

Griff 09-14-2013 07:52 AM

and if'n they need milking its Merrrah!

DanaC 09-14-2013 10:22 AM


Gravdigr 09-14-2013 04:38 PM

Ehrmahgerd, a ferg!!

Now, is that frerg croaking, or ribbiting?

I call that a ribbit.

Gravdigr 09-14-2013 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 876009)
OK, so he didn't croak...but, he didn't ribbit either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 876011)
No one ever said he did, liebchen. my answer was incorrect.

In that instance, by 'croak', I meant 'die'. And he didn't, you were correct there.

BigV 09-15-2013 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 876058)

strange. it appears as though the croak/ribbit/whatever/frogvoice happens on the inhalation, not the exhalation.


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