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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 635145)

Where is the bias?

OK I feel as though I have said this a dozen times. . .
I would prefer independent verification from an uninvolved party. When questioning something the Gov't says/does/claims... I would prefer not to just take the Gov'ts word for it or use the same Gov't as proof that what the say is factual/correct/true. Instead I would like corroborating evidence/proof/input from an outside source.
That is all.

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 635387)

This coming from one who attacked a posters wife by calling her a "gonorrhea dripping whore" and never apologizing?

Selective outrage.

I never heard you complain about Merc's constant comparison of a member of Congress to those who committed the worst atrocities of the 20 century...or Lookout's frequent macho need to refer to cunts.

And a broken record:

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 635388)

I got it.....just wanted to give you one more chance to answer a direct question in response to your sarcastic, uninformed post on that particular grant in question.

But evidently you prefer making sweeps claims of bias w/o proof. It is certainly more convenient.

Guilty until proven innocent....nice! Not the American way....the MerClassic way!

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What? no comment on those independent, objective economic research firms and the jobs created?

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 635283)

John Stossel......one of those "objective, independent" sources?

Not the guy who basically defined consumer watchdog groups, no not him...

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How convenient for him to start with a "broken promise" on middle class tax cuts yet ignore the $288 billion in tax cuts in the stimulus bill (about 1/3 of the entire bill) that will benefit, to some extent, most American taxpayers

Which of the lies by Obama, whom was quoted by his own video appearences did you disagree with?

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Caution: Fox fair and balanced at play!

Obviously you didnt watch it to the end where they hammered the Republickins...

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What makes this so funny is the fact that most of the tea baggers and other extremists probably dont even know that many of them got or are getting these tax cuts

What makes it so ironic is that the Demoncrats don't know how much trouble they are going to be in come Nov and how the electorate is on to their spend, spend, spend, and eventually tax the shit out of the those with jobs to cover their whorish spending. See you in Nov! :D

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 635390)

I never heard you complain about Merc's constant comparison of a member of Congress to those who committed the worst atrocities of the 20 century...

Maybe it is because most of the people are beginning to see (p)elosi for what she really is, a whore of the 21st Century. Spending millions on her jaunts in AirForce jets to tour Italy and Europe. She needs to be tarred and feathered out of D.C. on a pole.:D

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 635300)

I agree the program has its flaws (less than perfect) and one can quibble with the exact numbers...

Well at least you can agree that your people lied to the electorate and tried to bull shit us with their number... and they still are.

Your people are fucked come Nov.;)

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 635398)

Not the guy who basically defined consumer watchdog groups, no not him...

nice dodged....all of the above!

Honest journalism? No mention of $288 billion in tax cuts and yet claiming a broken promise on middle class tax relief. :headshake

Now how about those independent, objective economic research firms?

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 635300)

[IMG]Hey, Merc ....Dont you think someone should tell Stossel....tax cuts (and other benefits) going back into the economy!

Prove it. It is all smoke and mirrors by the Demoncrats and they re-fuck the people in 2010.:rolleyes::blush:

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 635401)

You can't claim $288 billion in tax cuts while you screw us with fees, cuts to tax relief programs, and tell us you are doing us a favor. Deficit spending abounds.

Pelosi and Obama promised us "Millions of Shovel ready jobs", they lied to get their pork barrel spending voted for. Obama promised us "Transparency", he lied as all of the healthcare bills and the Pelosi Pork Package was developed behind closed doors. Obama promised us "Every bill that comes across my desk with have 5 days where the American Public can read it before I sign it." Another lie.... you boat is sinking and even your party hopefuls are jumping ship...:lol:

Sitting back and watching you rant and rage all over the board and make an ass of yourself! :corn:

Now you just need your lapdog to join you.

:lol2:

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 635418)

Sitting back and watching you rant and rage all over the board and make an ass of yourself! :corn:

Now you just need your lapdog to join you.

See you in November (See Mass election results).

How's that Hopey Changey thing working out for you? :lol:

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 635421)

See you in November (See Mass election results).

How's that Hopey Changey thing working out for you? :lol:

We'll see what happens in November..... I predicted a loss of 20-30 seats in the House and 6-7 in the Senate. It may well be more, but highly unlikely to overturn either majority....particularly if the Republicans run extremist tea baggers or wingnuts.

But that doesnt change the hilarity of you denying the facts ($288 billion enacted in tax cuts) and independent objective reports on job creation from the stimulus....or your even more hilarious attempts at rationalizing your outrage at those facts and reports.

Now take a deep breath and relax for a second before you continue your rant and make yourself look even more foolish and wing-nutty!

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 635425)

We'll see what happens in November..... I predicted a loss of 20-30 seats in the House and 6-7 in the Senate.

But that doesnt change the hilarity of you denying the facts ($288 billion enacted in tax cuts) and independent objective reports on job creation from the stimulus....or your even hilarious attempts at rationalizing your outrage at those facts and reports.

Now take a deep breath and relax for a second before you continue your rant and make yourself look even more foolish and wing-nutty!

Now take a deep breath and relax for a second before you continue your rant and make yourself look even more foolish and wing-nutty! You can't butt fuck the electorate on the one hand with deficit spending to levels and repealing tax breaks like never seen in history with no plan to repay it and try to tell everyone you are doing them a favor and not to worry about how you are going repay it.;)

Come Nov, your party is screwed.

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 635427)

Come Nov, your party is screwed.

That may be....I dont think it will be catastrophic in terms of losing the majority in either house...I could be wrong, alot can happen between now and Nov, but that is not the issue here.

That you cant even acknowledge facts ($288 billion in tax cuts) and objective/independent reports on job creation from the stimulus is just bizarre. :eek:

More evidence that the Demoncratic party is buttfucking the American electorate.. BOHICA.

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The federal deficit this fiscal year will be $1.6 trillion, or about 10.6% of gross domestic product. That is the largest deficit since World War II, and even President Obama's optimistic estimates show our deficits will not return to sustainable levels for at least the next decade.

The administration's projection of total federal spending over those 10 years (2011-20) is $45.8 trillion, while expected taxes and other receipts will be $37.3 trillion. The $8.5 trillion deficit is about 20% of spending. And all of these numbers are based on a full and lasting economic recovery, which, based on current experience, is a pretty optimistic projection.

Earlier this month, The Wall Street Journal's editorial page did an analysis of the federal government's debt that will be held by the public over the coming decade. When the Democrats took control of Congress in 2007, the debt held by the public was 36.2% of GDP. It rose to 40.2% the next year. This year it will be about 63.6%, next year 68.6%, then 77% of GDP in 2020. And the Obama administration's budget estimates 218% in 2050.

The reason for these rising deficits is the huge increases in federal spending--the intended growth of the federal government--that Congress and the president are pushing. The deficit in 2007 was $160 billion. In the next year the Pelosi-Reid Congress took it up to $458 billion, and when President Obama came into office in 2009 it hit $1.4 trillion. The current 2010 projected deficit is $1.6 trillion, which will lead to a tripling of our national debt from 2008 to 2020.

To the White House and congressional Democrats, these large figures are not a surprise, a mistake or a worry. They are part of a strategy to Europeanize America, to make the government larger, broader and in charge of almost everything. And that would of course require broad and massive tax increases. The Washington Post's Robert Samuelson calculated that to fund all the future deficit expenditures would require taxes to increase "by roughly 50 percent from the average 1970-2009 tax burden." A 50% tax increase would become a permanent part of a declining America, just as such tax increases have become a permanent part of declining European countries.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...DDLETopOpinion

[QUOTE....They are part of a strategy to Europeanize America[/quote]
OH NO!

The "socialists are coming" mantra!

:lol2: