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Flint 12-05-2006 03:48 PM

you quoted him

Trilby 12-05-2006 03:49 PM

ah. guilty as charged.

busterb 12-05-2006 04:21 PM

I draw SS disability. By luck I paid enough in to get around $1200 each month before Medicare is taken out. Once I cursed because I worked construction and when you changed jobs they started taking it out again. So by my figures, after I pay bank, insurance and a few other things I have $599.83 bucks to pay city, which is gas, water, trash. Phone, is dsl, and video, cable. VA for meds. All that's left over I can piss away on food, beer, gas, repair house, any drugs and DR. bills. The tooth fairy and eye glasses. I have local. BTW, while waiting for this to happen I had damn little help from any Gov. For around 3 years.
If you have the dream that the benefits are the same for every state, you are wrong. If I was crazy enough to move to, say CA. I think I could get more money. If you move here from CA. you loose money.
Walk a mile in someone else's shoes. Hey I'm happy as a pig in shit. Go Mari.
:bitching:

busterb 12-05-2006 04:42 PM

Sorry. I now remember what set that rant off. I sent off for the info on working while disabled. Because I was going nuts, hey it got my 1st computer. Anyway they said I could earn in a month what I could make in about 3 days, when able. So I'm going to drive to ,say the west coast and make 2k a week and get down and can't work, get kicked off and have to wait 3 years? Hell no. Now I don't even have a choice.

DanaC 12-05-2006 05:30 PM

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Socialists? God, I admire you--you who have never, ever been exploited. you pure white souls. you gorgeous lovlies.
never been exploited? Fuck you and the spaceship you dropped down in.

xoxoxoBruce 12-05-2006 08:05 PM

The story of Aesop's life has more holes than a colander.
Does that make his parables less valuable for teaching problems and how (or how not) to deal with them? :smack:

Aliantha 12-05-2006 08:57 PM

Someone said 'schizos' can't operate computers.

HELLO??!!!!

Better put your brain in gear next time before you open your mouth.

Aliantha 12-05-2006 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LabRat
Which is why, to this point I have never really paid much attention to Mari. I think she's full of BS. Due to Co poisoning or not, I don't care and can't get inside her head to find out what the truth really is.

Keeping your friend in your life despite her problems is your choice Aliantha. I neither condemn or salute you. Ignoring Mari, and those I know like her IRL is mine. I prefer to surround myself with people who, depite the gravest of situations, try to look at the good things they still have going for them and focus on that.

I only have time/space in my life for so many people. I'd rather it be spent with positive ones. Am I a cold heartless bitch? That's for you to decide for yourself, and is entirely your opinion.

Unlike you I have time for people who're perhaps less fortunate than me, or have a different world view, or have faced different challenges.

Because of this, I'd suggest it's possible I've had a lot more interesting experiences than you may have had...that is of course if what you said is true and you only surround yourself with likeminded people.

If you want to ignore someone on an internet site then go ahead and do so, but don't try and justify your actions with bullshit statements.

Decision pending.

DanaC 12-06-2006 03:08 AM

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Ignoring Mari, and those I know like her IRL is mine. I prefer to surround myself with people who, depite the gravest of situations, try to look at the good things they still have going for them and focus on that.
Except you aren't ignoring are you? It's like some others on here, who go to the trouble to post that they've heard it all before.......well, if the conversation bores/irritates you then here's a clue: back button at the top of your browser; press it and go read something else on the site, there's a lot of it. People keep expending time and energy talking about how they don't want to hear any more of this; that they've heard it all before; that it's boring and (in some cases) they don't even believe it.....it's a little like watching a TV programme you hate and complaining loudly throughout the show. Just change the fucking channel.

I don't, nor I doubt does anybody else, read everything on this site. there are threads i just never click on, because the topic doesn't interest me and there are threads I visit for awhile until they start pissing me off and then I dump then. If you see a mari post and when you go check it out, you think it's just the same old bullshit, and that annoys you, then go read something else. I just do not understand the need people have to expend energy on a thread they see as pointless and annoying. Then having baited the fuck out of Mari, they complain that she is always talking about her illness or income. Don't throw things at someone and not expect them to try and defend themselves, it's just unreasonable.

Jesus H. Fucking Christ. It's so utterly disengenuous to needle someone into defence then round on them for that defence.

And Bri what the fuck is all this about 'Schizophrenics can do this, schizophrenics can't do that?' How many tens of patients did you base that little gem on? That explains a lot about your attitude, you clearly think if someone doesn't fit your very (medically and psychiatrically unsound) narrow perception of what is meant by such disorders. No wonder you didn't stay in the field, my guess is you left because you sucked at it.

skysidhe 12-06-2006 08:46 AM

To no body in particular.
 
Everyone has a sad story. No matter how large or small it's important for them to be understood.
Some of you are like me in that the only sad story is seeing threads like these.

Everyone should be giving the benefit of the doubt. Especially on a message board. We only see on quarter of a person this way. There is enough misunderstanding in the world why add another layer of hurt.






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Originally Posted by Brianna
Again--no one has mentioned anything about ideas to get mari back on her feet.

wow, I was just thinking of ways I could save if I had the misfortune of having such a small income.

My idea:

Move to a big city and live downtown!
Take public transportation.
Get a bike.
Just changing local to an urban district and eliminating the need for a car would easily add mucho money.

I would absolutley hate to be stuck in a small town ( without money) for you would be at the mercy of the town yokels. ( kinda like here :p )

LabRat 12-06-2006 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha
Unlike you I have time for people who're perhaps less fortunate than me, or have a different world view, or have faced different challenges.

Because of this, I'd suggest it's possible I've had a lot more interesting experiences than you may have had...that is of course if what you said is true and you only surround yourself with likeminded people.

If you want to ignore someone on an internet site then go ahead and do so, but don't try and justify your actions with bullshit statements.

Decision pending.


I did not say I didn't have time for people less fortunate, or have a different world view, or are less fortunate. I said
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I prefer to surround myself with people who, depite the gravest of situations, try to look at the good things they still have going for them and focus on that.
I most definately do not surround myself with likeminded people. Why the hell would I practically live here while at work, where there are plenty of like minded people I could be hanging out with in this very building?

lumberjim 12-06-2006 10:39 AM

the polarization here is interesting. with topics like this, it becomes very clear just who the 'likeminded' people are. At least, to me it does.

Here's the thing: Those of you that are defending Marichiko feel like she's being unjustly attacked by bitter and cold people that are insensitive to her plight. Those of us who've had it up to here ^ with her, have heard it all before in various iterations of woah is meisms, and after 2+ years of it, she has changed nothing.
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Originally Posted by sky
My idea:

Move to a big city and live downtown!
Take public transportation.
Get a bike.
Just changing local to an urban district and eliminating the need for a car would easily add mucho money.

even the crazy chick can figure this out.

mari CHOOSES to live in an environment that provides very minimal support for those who cannot or will not do for themselves. She is obviously satisfied with her lot, and bitches mainly for attention. I believe that she is truly struggling financially. but, guess what? that's her fucking choice!

she PLAINLY has the acumen and the education to work if she chose to. despite all of her excuses to the contrary, her very thoroughly researched reasons why she can;t work are, in direct conflict with her statements, evidence that she COULD. Not in the mountains of Colorado, maybe, But in say.....Denver, or Boulder or somewhere where there are companies that need employees.

bottom line: she chooses her lifestyle. and then she bitches about it. I say tough shit, fuck you, get a job if you don't like being poor, or be happy with what you are GIVEN.

cocks

anonymous 12-06-2006 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BigLargeMcHuge
Those of us who've had it up to here ^ with her, have heard it all before in various iterations of woah is meisms, and after 2+ years of it, she has changed nothing.

Comment from the peanut gallery: Then why do you continue to play the game? It reminds me of the playground where the big kids all pick on one of the others. After two years, why do you still derive satisfaction from the game? Could it be that some of you have self esteem issues and are throwing your own character defects out in the open? This has been a very interesting read, I must say.

Carry on.

DanaC 12-06-2006 02:11 PM

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she PLAINLY has the acumen and the education to work if she chose to. despite all of her excuses to the contrary, her very thoroughly researched reasons why she can;t work are, in direct conflict with her statements, evidence that she COULD.
On what knowledge of the myriad ways in which neurological problems can and do affect disparate individuals, do you base that statement?

I wasn't intending to involve myself in this discussion any further, as i believe it has become skewed towards the ridiculous and frankly nasty; however, i feel compelled to refute the constant assertions that anything Mari has written here bear any kind of evidence towards her ability to work, or lack thereof.

In my work as a councillor, about ten per cent of my cases relate to social services and/or provisions. I have a regular queue of people for whom the proving of their disability is less than simple. Despite letters and reports from doctors and consultants, people are often refused on the grounds that they seemed alright/cogent/healthy/confident or articulate on the days they have had to interract with staff. The fact that these people are often choosing to visit the agency to deal with their claims on precisely those days when they are most able to cope with the process is rarely taken into account.

The thing I find most sickening about this, and I find it strongly echoed on this board, is that those people are accounted as liars and malingerers and thereby forced into a position of (or in the case of marichiko taunted into) defending their condition.....defending a condition they most likely hate and fighting for their right to be recognised as sick/disabled. Psychologically, I cannot believe it is helpful for people who are labouring under an illness or disability which is controlling many, aspects of their life, to have to defend that illness or disability.

jinx 12-06-2006 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC
The thing I find most sickening about this, and I find it strongly echoed on this board, is that those people are accounted as liars and malingerers and thereby forced into a position of (or in the case of marichiko taunted into) defending their condition.....defending a condition they most likely hate and fighting for their right to be recognised as sick/disabled. Psychologically, I cannot believe it is helpful for people who are labouring under an illness or disability which is controlling many, aspects of their life, to have to defend that illness or disability.

Who are those people? Give me some examples of the strong echoes, ones that don't invlove multichiko.


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