An asshole is an asshole and it does not matter whether its left, right or in the middle. Some just don't recognize their assholiness, but that is no reason for someone to be rude when pointing it out. :)

I just don't care what you think.

When have you not been allowed to state your opinion, or read other's opinions?

You are right. I completely recognized my assholiness to Redux. And I sleep well at night.

Never...but that wasnt my point.

Perhaps I was not clear.

IMO, the level of discourse often deteriorates to personal attacks and character assassination and there are several people who are never called out on it.

Let me be even more clear...I'm not offended when it happens to me, which is quite often. I dont take anything directed at me seriously, but IMO, as Shawnee noted, there is a double standard.

So call people out on what you have a problem with - why do you need Bruce to hold your hand?

Sigh.

That is not my point, either.

I dont need hand-holding and I have called people out. I can get in the gutter with the best of them. I would prefer not to.

But I am trying to address the issue of how to raise the level of discourse, and I include myself and my "contributions" to the discussion..... if anyone cares.

So you want to raise the "level of discourse" to the point of where everyone agrees with your propaganda. I get it. Go to a forum where everyone agrees with you or is easily fooled by the BS you post.

See..that is exactly what I mean...twisting my words to suit yourself. You know that is not what I said.

It is not a matter of agreeing with me, but a matter of respecting others opinions and defending your own positions and opinions w/o making it personal.

Like I said, just go somewhere where you want people to play by your rules. I know, start your own forum. I am sure that you will get a lot of people to come and agree with your talking points.

What the fuck are you talking about? Who gets called out? Are you calling someone out? The only people I call out, are the ones that attack me.

I know you want the forum to be strictly controlled, so it reads like a panel discussion or something. Those panel discussions are not really discussions, they are just listing talking points in turn, all nice and neat. That ain't happening here.

You're full of shit redux. I called you out on your "most people agree with me not you merc" bullshit, which is a dishonest debate tactic and you immediately declared I was a merc groupie conservative. You're the worst one at everything you bitch about.

Nope...bullies like you always want those to expose you for what you are to go somewhere else. I'm not that easily bullied.

I'll continue to expose you as the partisan hack that you are and the so-called "facts" that you espouse that are nothing more than wingnut talking points. :D

On nol

Now I have been "jinxed" :eek:

I guesss that means more gutter sniping.....bring it on!

I promise I wont call you a "cunt" under any circumstances. Not my style :)

Way to raise the level of discourse.