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Gravdigr 02-04-2019 01:00 PM

I wonder if this person ran home and had their electricity turned off, because electricity is produced in lots of places by coal. And as we all know coal is mined by black-face coal miners...

Way to keep racism alive, Rashaad.

Undertoad 02-04-2019 03:03 PM

What's next? Oh you'll never guess!

Mary Poppins branded racist by US academic in 'blackface' row over scene where she gets covered in soot

I haven't linked to the paywalled NYT article where they back this notion up via vague references from the books.

Happy Monkey 02-04-2019 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1024968)
I haven't linked to the paywalled NYT article where they back this notion up via vague references from the books.

It's only paywalled if you've hit your monthly limit.

It does refer to a scene in the original Mary Poppins movie where the soot-covered chimney sweeps are mistaken for hottentots by the Admiral, so the connection between soot-covered faces and blackface is explicitly made in the film. But it is made by the crazy guy who fires cannons from the roof of the house he thinks is a ship, so make of that what you will.

It spends more time on some interesting backstory about the character "Hyacinth Macaw" referred to in the recent Mary Poppins Returns movie. A fairly explicitly (not necessarily intentionally, but at least a strong example of casual racism of the era) racist character (it's early in the month, see the article for details) from the original books was rewritten to be a bird, a hyacinth macaw. A character named Hyacinth Macaw is referred to in the new movie, a human again, nude except for feathers and a leaf, but now a wealthy widow.

It was an interesting article. Not great, but it shines next to most of the articles criticizing it.

Undertoad 02-04-2019 05:25 PM

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so the connection between soot-covered faces and blackface is explicitly made
Was the explicit connection made to... "white entertainers appearing as black to make comedy routines funnier because it's common knowledge blacks are buffoons"?

Or is it now actually racist for someone to have soot on their face and be mistaken for a black person?

Does any of this bullshit help race relations? Expanding the definition of blackface to everything darkening, that's going to solve race?

No, it makes white Times readers feel better about themselves. That's all it does.

xoxoxoBruce 02-05-2019 05:29 AM

White people using suntan lotion is racist. :rolleyes:

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It does refer to a scene in the original Mary Poppins movie where the soot-covered chimney sweeps are mistaken for hottentots by the Admiral,...
The Admiral mistaking the dirty faced sweeps for hottentots, is not blackface, they didn't blacken their faces to look like something else, they didn't even do it intentionally.

The Admiral firing on the sweeps thinking the were hottentots wasn't racism, it's because they had a history of violence against each other, been prior fighting. Granted they probably got to the fighting stage because of racism but it's beyond that point. That's like saying the US marine on Guadalcanal hating Japs is racist.

Undertoad 02-08-2019 09:19 PM

CNN, because journalism, lists all the people who have done "blackface" if, in fact, the meaning of blackface has been expanded to pretending to be black.

The list includes not only actors portraying black people but also -- Robert Downey Jr. in "Tropic Thunder". Downey was not portraying a black man; he was portraying an actor who was portraying a black man. And playing for parody.

xoxoxoBruce 02-08-2019 11:15 PM

All those soldiers sneaking through the jungle at night, and the actors portraying those soldiers in the movies. :rolleyes:

sexobon 02-08-2019 11:30 PM

Don't forget about the white people in all of those old B&W film negatives.

tw 02-09-2019 12:27 AM

Medical science is now experimenting with head transplants. Currently only on animals. Is it legal to put a black man's head on a white man's body? Or is that also called black face?

xoxoxoBruce 02-09-2019 12:38 AM

Ray Milland and Rosey Grier.

fargon 02-09-2019 07:15 AM

I saw this at the Miramar Theater in San Clemente Ca with Kimberly Ann.

Undertoad 02-12-2019 11:57 AM

CNN because journalism:

Katy Perry faces criticism over shoe design resembling blackface

source of "criticism" in order to make headline accurate: one single tweet with, at this moment, 20 likes

sexobon 02-12-2019 09:48 PM

Where are the Native American protests? They should be all over this bandwagon:

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BLACKFEET or BLACKFOOT INDIANS. "Blackfoot" is the English translation of the word siksika, which means "black foot." It refers to the dark colored moccasins the people wear. Some Blackfoot people are annoyed by the plural "Blackfeet," which is obviously an anglicization.
Katy Perry is obviously appropriating their culture.

xoxoxoBruce 02-13-2019 12:18 AM

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Blackfeet is an anglicization. And blackfoot isn't? :confused:

Damn whippersnappers are gettin' too damn lazy...

Spexxvet 02-13-2019 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1025611)
Blackfeet is an anglicization. And blackfoot isn't? :confused:

Damn whippersnappers are gettin' too damn lazy...

Maybe more of an indication of wealthy inequality


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