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marichiko 06-24-2004 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by Undertoad
60% is the percentage of oil used by the US that is imported.

All the numbers fit together. Math is hard

Not especially. Here is the direct quote from the DOE:

"The growing dependence of the United States
on foreign sources for its liquid fuels has significant
strategic and economic implications.
The United States has been a net importer of
oil for more than 50 years, and today, imports
nearly 60 percent of its liquid hydrocarbon
needs (Figure 1). The U.S. Department of Energy
(DOE) projects that U.S. imports may
double, to 19.8 MMBbl/D by 2025. By then
imports will exceed 70 percent of demand, the
vast majority coming from Organization of
Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC). As
imports rise, America’s vulnerability to price
shocks, disruptions, and shortages will also
increase....
Is increasing dependence on
OPEC oil in the best long-term interests of the
United States?
Adding urgency
to these questions is the indication
that world oil production may peak
sooner than generally believed, accelerating
the onset of inevitable competition among
consumers (and nations) for ever-scarcer oil
resources.


A major part of the world’s future oil supply
must come from OPEC sources, principally
Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia has been able to
maintain a production capacity of about 10
million barrels per day. The Saudi productive
capacity is projected by EIA to nearly double,
increasing to 19.5 million barrels per day by
2020 (Ref. 9, page 235). It is not now apparent,
however, that adequate investments are
being made in the Saudi fields to double oil
production by 2020."

elSicomoro 06-24-2004 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by tw
In the Philly region, the only place that will show Moore's movie is Trenton NJ and Allentown PA.
Not true...two of the Ritz theaters are showing it (Voorhees and 2nd & Walnut).

Beestie 06-24-2004 09:55 PM

Let's see if Moore can take as good as he gives. If I were a betting man, I'd say probably not.

Moore is about to get force fed a dose of his own medicine.

tw 06-24-2004 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by sycamore
Not true...two of the Ritz theaters are showing it (Voorhees and 2nd & Walnut).
Last weekend when I checked Philly.com for the movie on Friday, it only came back with two theatres. Now it comes back with a whole slew of theatres. Is this movie database so imcomplete as to only be valid for a day or two in advance? Any rate, suddenly Farenheit 9/11 is everywhere.

When I went to see Moore's original "Roger and Me", it too was only available in few theatres. I had to go to Society Hill to find it. Glad to see I can actually find a film without driving across a few counties this time.

marichiko 06-24-2004 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by Beestie
Let's see if Moore can take as good as he gives. If I were a betting man, I'd say probably not.

Moore is about to get force fed a dose of his own medicine.

So whatzit say? (I don't feel like entering in all that info to subscribe to some Twin Cities rag. I got enough problems as it is). By the way, Moore's flick is prominently advertized as a coming attraction on good old conservative Colorado Springs' downtown cinema house.

elSicomoro 06-24-2004 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by Beestie
Let's see if Moore can take as good as he gives. If I were a betting man, I'd say probably not.
He'll probably claim smear tactics, right-wing conspiracy, etc.

If Disney would have just put this film out, the hype would probably only be half of what it is.

elSicomoro 06-24-2004 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by marichiko
So whatzit say? (I don't feel like entering in all that info to subscribe to some Twin Cities rag. I got enough problems as it is).
Put in fake info, lazy.

marichiko 06-24-2004 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by sycamore


Put in fake info, lazy.

too much trouble. I hate typing!;)

Griff 06-25-2004 07:21 AM

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Originally posted by tw

When I went to see Moore's original "Roger and Me", it too was only available in few theatres. I had to go to Society Hill to find it. Glad to see I can actually find a film without driving across a few counties this time.

Moore is a big draw now. I'm not sure most of our European friends understand how overexposed he is. Any question of censorship on this is hooey.

marichiko 06-25-2004 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by Griff


Moore is a big draw now. I'm not sure most of our European friends understand how overexposed he is. Any question of censorship on this is hooey.

Yeah, just because the Mickey Mouse bunch doesn't like him, doesn't mean he's being censored. I wouldn't say he had been over exposed, though, not until this latest controversy. Disney nixing his film was probably some of the best publicity he ever got.

xoxoxoBruce 06-25-2004 04:37 PM

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The U.S. Department of Energy projects that U.S. imports may double, to 19.8 MMBbl/D by 2025.
And may not. We're talking about now.:p

marichiko 06-25-2004 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce

And may not. We're talking about now.:p

Ever hear the story of the ant and the grasshopper?

xoxoxoBruce 06-25-2004 05:00 PM

Yes, and they had nothing to do with the war in Iraq either.:p

Griff 06-25-2004 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
Yes, and they had nothing to do with the war in Iraq either.:p
I have unnamed sourses that say they do. So there.

xoxoxoBruce 06-25-2004 10:20 PM

Quick, get inside before the sky falls.:eek3:


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