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classicman 01-19-2009 11:58 AM

Gotcha Griff - Thats sorta what I thought, but wanted to be sure before I replied.

I am scared to death of going that deep into debt too. I live very modestly because of that opinion. I am looking to get a larger place with my own yard etc. Thats really gonna cost me. . . both monetarily and stressfully.

Griff 01-19-2009 12:01 PM

I have a buddy living in the San Diego area with the intent of selling and building back here plus doing the travel-home thing. It should all be manageable if the market doesn't permanently tank. I guess we just have to do things our own way. I trust my hammer more than the job or real estate markets.

TheMercenary 01-19-2009 12:08 PM

Classic. I know whta you mean. We live in a nice place in a nice neighborhood on about 1/3 of an acre. We are looking at 198 acres and a final place for a home now. It will be a difficult task but we are going to remain positive.

smoothmoniker 01-19-2009 05:42 PM

Re: Tax Break.

HUUUUUGE!

Radar 01-19-2009 07:28 PM

The tax break isn't worth it anywhere. As Dave Ramsey says, you end up paying $10,000 to the mortgage company to avoid paying $3,000 to the IRS.

lookout123 01-20-2009 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by smoothmoniker (Post 524000)
It's a home, but it's also your primary savings and investment. That's a big part of why my wife and I are stretching so far to get into this house. We feel like it's the best leveraged investment we could make right now.

/devil's/While that is traditionally true, have you considered the effect of the baby boom generation on this traditional strategy? Every boom/bust cycle we've experienced since 1945 has been directly tied to the habits and needs of the boomers. As boomers age they will downsize. In many cases they owned second and third properties as investments. They will sell these properties as the need for cash comes along combined with their diminishing desire to have the extra concern of multiple properties. There are nowhere near enough buyers for all of the existing properties + additional properties as the builders continue to do what they do. Home prices cannot not escalate the way they have traditionally. The home as primary investment just might not work for our generation the way it did for our parents./advocate/

Quote:

Also, we really, really want to live there.
Now that is a perfectly respectable, legitimate reason to purchase a home.

xoxoxoBruce 01-20-2009 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 524464)
Now that is a perfectly respectable, legitimate reason to purchase a home.

The bestest. :thumb2:

lookout123 01-20-2009 11:55 AM

The mortgage that Aliantha is talking about is available in the US and can be quite effective. The drawback is our tax laws are different and it is possible to land in a position where the interest is no longer deductible and there are further ramifications on the death tax.

Clodfobble 01-20-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123
Home prices cannot not escalate the way they have traditionally. The home as primary investment just might not work for our generation the way it did for our parents.

I know that something is supposed to appreciate to actually be considered an investment, but there's still something to be said for building equity, right? Obviously this is not the case in the crazy-ass California markets, but around here the prices for rents and mortgages are basically the same, so my understanding is that buying is usually a better idea as long as your overall budget is stable.

lookout123 01-20-2009 04:10 PM

If your plan is to pay it off and live in it payment free then it is definitely a better plan.

If you plan on living in it until you find different place then you have to consider whether it is an increasing or decreasing asset.

xoxoxoBruce 01-21-2009 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 524560)
If your plan is to pay it off and live in it payment free then it is definitely a better plan.

Unfortunately too many people with that plan find they can't afford the taxes and maintenance when they retire.:(

Radar 01-21-2009 01:32 AM

My Realtor called me tonight to tell me the bank picked someone else, but if they change their mind or don't make it through escrow, I'll get it.

:(

smoothmoniker 01-21-2009 10:56 AM

I'm sorry, Radar. That really sucks. We were told that at first, and for 24 hours thought we had lost the house. By then, you've already mentally moved in and starting repainting walls.

Let us know how it plays out - they could call you back!

Radar 01-21-2009 11:22 AM

We had already waited nearly 2 weeks to hear from them. I was making a checklist of all the stuff we had to do before moving in.

Shawnee123 01-21-2009 01:10 PM

Sorry to hear, Radar. :(


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