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I'm surprised by your reply Lamp and yet not at all by yours Pico.

And you are predictable as well.

I thought his reply simply gave a sort of wry take on the new guy, seeing as how Canter likes him. You, however, decided to do your usual schtick and challenge it as being...you know I really don't know what you are getting at this time? But it came off as your usual type of attack. Why so edgy all the time anyway?

What am I getting at? Where is your outrage?
Yet another banker who profited from the 2008 financial crisis is empowered in the Obama administration...
This president railed AGAINST Wall Street and those upon it. Most people were behind him on that.
This president talked about prosecuting and holding accountable those responsible ... ... ...
He criticized the "other team" for their close ties and promised change.
Yet again, he has chosen to select someone for his "inner circle" who was knee deep in the Wall Street BS,
who personally profited in the hundreds of millions of dollar for himself, who was, at least,
partly responsible for what happened, traded in the securities which bet against the housing market,
was involved with those "big bad banks" and securities firms like Citigroup, Goldman Sachs and . . . .

Please don't try to tell me you would react the same way if there was an (R) behind his name.

My reply to him was basically that Lamp has been far more open-minded in his assessments, unlike yours.
No attack.

My outrage is at the whole system, now, and Obama was the one that turned me. I became wary of Obama right before he got elected....it just didn't smell right. Like a panacea to smooth over the ridiculous Bush years. And his behavior so far hasn't done anything to change my mind.

The grifters have their greedy hands on the government and so all politicians at that level are bought and paid for. That's the reason no one is being held accountable for the collapse of 2008.

I only hope that the outrage that sparked OWS doesn't fade away like the outrage over the Iraq War. I would like to see the power of the people actually have some oomph to it for once (and not the made up groups like The Tea Party - that's just another example of the grifters gaming the system).

Fair enough. Thats the first time I've seen you post anything like that.
I apologize.

I have posted similar thought in the past, but mostly I stayed away from Obama posts. Mostly, I will get my dander up when liberal ideology is attacked. And I get really incensed whenever workers rights are threatened, because that is the big deal right now.

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME (Post 786568)

I only hope that the outrage that sparked OWS doesn't fade away like the outrage over the Iraq War. I would like to see the power of the people actually have some oomph to it for once (and not the made up groups like The Tea Party - that's just another example of the grifters gaming the system).

So as long as the people rise up in support of your liberal ideas and Union thugs you support it. But if large groups of people rise up and actually get people who support their view elected to office, without one civil disobedience event, without one single arrest of people who want change, you think they are "grifters gaming the system"? Thank God that is not the way our system works.

I have to admit, this morning when I heard that Obama denied the permit for the Keystone pipeline, I was shocked. I never in a million years though he would do that. Making that decision required a spine, and that's something I haven't seen much of from Obama.

Of course, he basically came right out and said he would approve it after the election, so he's still sort of sitting on the fence, but still.

I wasn't surprised that he denied it. Hes been getting A LOT of pressure about it.
I was surprised that he said he'd revisit it after the election though.
I thought he showed some backbone until he, almost immediately, flipped on it.

The decision to reject the Keystone project is really a decision to circumvent
the Republican attempt to tie Keystone to the extension of the payroll tax bill.
The two are not otherwise related.

National Post NEws
Jan 18, 2012
Obama rejects Keystone pipeline, open to alternative*route

Quote:

The Obama administration on Wednesday denied a presidential permit
for construction of the $7-billion Keystone XL pipeline, ruling that a proper environmental review
could not be conducted before a 60-day deadline set by the U.S. Congress
to rule on the controversial oilsands project.

But Calgary-based TransCanada Corp., the company behind the 2,700-kilometre pipeline,
has been given the option of making a new application — and company officials confirmed
they will propose an alternative route for Keystone XL that avoids environmentally sensitive areas in Nebraska.

National Post News
Dec 19,2011

Lorne Gunter: Obama’s pushback on Keystone is pure posturing

Quote:

On Saturday, the U.S. Senate voted 89-10 to approve a bill
that
would extend payroll tax cuts for 160 million Americans by two months.
That’s not a surprise. Going into an election year, no politician or party
wants to be responsible for a very visible tax hike.
If the Senate had not approved the extension
— an economic stimulus measure important to President Barack Obama’s jobs creation strategy
– American workers would have seen a decrease of $100 to $150 a month on their paychecks beginning Jan 1.

But it was surprising that 49 of the 89 votes were from Democrats because,
attached to the tax-cut bill, was a rider urging Mr. Obama to make a decision
on the Keystone XL pipeline within the next 60 days.

Mr. Obama announced last month that he would put off until 2013 any decision
on the US$7-billion pipeline that will run from Alberta’s oil sands to American refineries
on the Texas Gulf Coast — until after next fall’s presidential and Congressional elections. <snip>

Gene Sperling, a senior economic adviser to Obama, told CNN that
“The experts at the State Department who are authorized
for our government to make that very serious and complex review made clear . . .
that if they were only given 60 days to look at the alternative routes in Nebraska
and to do the serious environmental and health and safety reviews,
that would (not) be enough time, and would make it almost certainly impossible
for them to extend that permit.”

Obama: I'll decide later.
Republicans: Decide now!
Obama: OK, I say no. But I may reverse it later.

Obama: u mad?

I just caught a clip of Obama giving a speech at Disneyworld (loosening foreign tourist restrictions to bring more dollars to the U.S.)

He said he was glad to see Mickey, that it's nice to see a world leader with bigger ears than his.

He's so adorable. ;)

Someone tell obama, no more excuses.

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 791590)

Someone tell obama, no more excuses.

If you attend the inauguration in Jan, 2013, you could tell him, in person. :rolleyes: