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xoxoxoBruce 11-16-2015 11:32 PM

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Boats, in this case bigada boats. Where's our carriers. They don't wear a red and white striped shirt to pick they out of the vast ocean.

Undertoad 11-17-2015 12:17 AM

Wherever trouble is, we'll be there! ...in about two weeks

Gravdigr 11-17-2015 03:55 PM

No carriers in/around the sandbox?:eyebrow:

xoxoxoBruce 11-17-2015 06:49 PM

The Navy promised one will be there soon... with a wistful postscript of, if we only had a dozen more of these 10 Billion dollar boats.

xoxoxoBruce 11-19-2015 12:22 AM

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Our first carrier the USS Langley, a 13,000 ton converted battleship in 1927, which was it's 7th year in service. Notice the lack of super structure above deck and the lack of side walls on the hangar deck.
Our second carrier, the USS Lexington built in 1927, had the Conning Tower superstructure typical of carriers ever since. But armored hanger deck walls and steel flight decks didn't come until WW II.

fargon 11-19-2015 06:28 AM

The Langley was a collier.

glatt 11-19-2015 09:07 AM

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Bruce's comment got me looking for pictures of the hangars in modern carriers. And I came upon this one. Does anyone know what the different colored shirts mean in this photo of an "all hands" meeting in a hangar 3 years ago? You've got purple, green, red, blue, and camo. Hi Res picture here.
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fargon 11-19-2015 09:37 AM

The different colors represent different jobs on the flight deck.
Purple Fuel
Red Ordinance
Green Catapults and Arresting Gear
I Think

xoxoxoBruce 11-19-2015 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fargon (Post 945867)
The Langley was a collier.

Right, my bad. The 2nd and 3rd carriers, Lexington and Saratoga, were built on battle cruiser hulls. :thumbsup:

Gravdigr 11-19-2015 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fargon (Post 945885)
The different colors represent different jobs on the flight deck.
Purple Fuel
Red Ordinance
Green Catapults and Arresting Gear
I Think

If that ain't correct it's damn close.

I think the AirBoss wears yellow. Maybe.





ETA: Very good explainer here.

xoxoxoBruce 11-19-2015 05:59 PM

From that link not everyone with the same color shirt has the same duties or area of responsibility, like I figured they would. The colors seem to separate by authority and areas of expertise. The yellow shirt yells, hey blue shirt get away from the bombs and fuel. :haha:

xoxoxoBruce 01-05-2016 10:52 PM

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I guess a Jet-Ski is a boat. :D

xoxoxoBruce 01-08-2016 12:57 AM

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Testing ability of aircraft against ships, with the new 2,000lb bombs.

xoxoxoBruce 01-30-2016 05:52 PM

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If you own a boat you should have a garage for it. ;)

Gravdigr 01-31-2016 01:06 PM


xoxoxoBruce 02-03-2016 10:28 AM

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I wonder how they Planned to cool the motor over the road? Or how the boat controls would hook to the car systems like steering and brakes. Designers like Stevens fan the flames of desire, then dumps reality on the engineers... and yes, the bean counters.

fargon 02-03-2016 11:34 AM

Too many moving parts. 'Tis not boatswains mate proof.

BigV 02-03-2016 01:51 PM

What do you do with the car part at the boat ramp once the boat's been launched? Presumably taking with it the "over the road" (and up the ramp and into the parking lot) power plant (but leaving the winch...)?

xoxoxoBruce 02-03-2016 06:18 PM

Boat ramp? This ain't no city slicker toy, this is to go where no man has built a ramp before, where men are men and ramps are vacant. You have to see the Big Picture, otherwise you can't fit all the advertising copy in.

Gravdigr 02-09-2016 02:12 PM

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glatt 02-09-2016 02:27 PM

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She looks like the Royal Clipper.
Here's her insides.
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xoxoxoBruce 02-09-2016 03:30 PM

All that opulence just a tiny hole away from being the fanciest submarine in the ocean. :eek:
Holy shit, 56,000 square feet of sail.

xoxoxoBruce 02-19-2016 06:08 AM

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Speaking of submarines, this is close...

Griff 02-19-2016 06:25 AM

How much money did we sink into killing Castro? Now he's playing 2nd base for the Yankees.

glatt 02-19-2016 07:20 AM

They say it's small and "quiet." I wonder what it used for propulsion. With a range of 110 miles, I'd assume a gasoline or diesel engine. And I don't think of either of those as being "quiet."

glatt 02-19-2016 07:32 AM

According to this PDF, it was gasoline powered and was very dangerous because the fumes would settle in the bottom of the boat.
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During one test, a single crew-man was in SKIFF, standing in the open deck hatch. Unbeknownst to all present, a fuel leak had occurred and fumes had gathered, but the crewman had neglected to turn valve #15. With the flip of a switch, the ignition of the engine, or some other spark-generating event, the fumes ignited. Due to the vessel’s small size, there was little space for the explosion to expand—except for the open deck hatch. Thus, as powder ignited deep in the breech of a cannon that expands dramatically through the barrel, the force in the small SKIFF sought the open hatch—and, as with a cannon, there was a moveable obstruction: the crewman, who was shot through the air. He went straight up, like a missile from a submarine, and eventually landed in the water nearby. Remarkably, he was plucked from the water unharmed, except that he had lost all his body hair. As Smith described the scene, other than his swim trunks, he was “nude as a sausage.” Smith also noted how fortunate it was that he had been standing straight up and well centered in the opening, which was exactly the same width as his shoulders; if he had been lower, perhaps with one shoulder under one side of the opening, he “would have left more than his hair in the hatch.”

Gravdigr 02-19-2016 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 953847)
...I don't think of either of those as being "quiet."

That's probably 1950s 'quiet'. As in 'quiet to the ear'. It would probably be noticed from waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off by a modern sub's listening equipment.

Gravdigr 02-20-2016 01:58 PM


xoxoxoBruce 03-01-2016 10:53 AM

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Gondolas are for tourists and wimps.
But the flimsy little wires on the rudders don't look too safe. :eyebrow:

Gravdigr 03-07-2016 01:11 PM


xoxoxoBruce 03-08-2016 11:48 AM

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Battleship...

xoxoxoBruce 03-13-2016 09:36 AM

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We wanted no part of the war in Europe, but after a U-Boat sunk the Lusitania president Wilson told Germany knock it off, no more passenger ships or we'd come over there. Germany complied until the Russians collapsed, then the Germans said you're not the boss of me, figuring the could beat England and the U-Boats would keep the US from coming to the fight. That's why this U-Boat was in NY.

Griff 03-13-2016 11:02 AM

In the interest of full disclosure, Wilson did want a war and the Lusitania was carrying munitions.

xoxoxoBruce 03-13-2016 02:33 PM

Yes Wilson did, but 70% of the country did not. Strange as it may seem, back then the peoples wishes were honored by politicians.
Killing 1100 civilians is not justified over a few bullets... ok, 170 tons of bullets.

xoxoxoBruce 03-15-2016 01:56 AM

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Looks like US industrial centers about the same time... and China now.

xoxoxoBruce 03-20-2016 03:53 PM

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Kind of boatish so I'll sick it here, although it could go in WTF as well.

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The buoy would have an observation area from which our unlucky guardian would scan the seas; once a ship was spotted, the buoy would submerge to periscope depth, and after some time the nationality of the ship would be identified; at that point if an enemy ship is recognized the operator could submerge the buoy further (being anchored to the sea floor) via a winch to 50 or 60 feet beneath the surface, and then when the mine made contact (proximity or otherwise?) the buoy operator could detonate the mine. It was thought in this way that you could mine an area of sea and not have to worry about ships being damaged by friendly fire. The whole thing seems highly problematic to me--not the least of which would probably be a very jostling ride to the buoy operator.
As far as desirability of that post, it's right up there with Kamikaze Pilot, and bomb vest carrier. :rolleyes:

Gravdigr 03-21-2016 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 955888)
...and bomb vest carrier.


Gravdigr 04-11-2016 02:05 PM


xoxoxoBruce 04-11-2016 05:19 PM

That's cool, you can have your little dinghy transported to safer waters, and not risk ocean travel. They must have divers setting up some kind of cribbing to cradle the boats when the water's pumped out. Something to keep them from moving in rough weather.

Gravdigr 04-11-2016 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 957306)
They must have divers setting up some kind of cribbing to cradle the boats when the water's pumped out. Something to keep them from moving in rough weather.

I think they use cases of freshly picked prunes.

xoxoxoBruce 04-11-2016 05:39 PM

:headshake That would make them too salty.

xoxoxoBruce 04-12-2016 09:07 AM

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Smooth sailing...

BigV 04-14-2016 12:01 PM

Smooth seas do not make strong sailors.

infinite monkey 04-14-2016 12:13 PM

6 days do not a week make.

xoxoxoBruce 04-14-2016 11:17 PM

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Four funnel ships look easy to roll over.

Griff 04-15-2016 06:05 AM

funnel cakes as well

xoxoxoBruce 04-16-2016 05:09 PM

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Vincent boats? Not only your boat, but your little lawnmower too. Muhahahaha.

Gravdigr 05-08-2016 03:03 PM

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Washington bids farewell to an old destroyer

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So long USS Barry (DD-933), we hardly knew ye.

glatt 05-09-2016 09:20 AM

It's too bad we're losing her. You could spend an overnight on her, and while I never did, our Boy Scout troop spent one or two nights on board over the years.

Gravdigr 05-09-2016 01:18 PM

That would've been cool, especially for a kid.

Griff 05-09-2016 05:30 PM

I thought they were just renaming it the USS Barack.

Gravdigr 05-15-2016 03:50 PM

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Chinese Freightliner Shinyo Sawako trying to get hooked up to a large salvage tug boat. This photo was taken shortly after Shinyo Sawako collided with a fishing boat Lurong Yu 2177 (that sank immediately upon collision and only two survived from its crew of 18 members). Reasons for the collision are unknown.

xoxoxoBruce 05-21-2016 01:37 PM

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For the boats, cleaning the Grand Canal. Bet that smells wonderful. :greenface

xoxoxoBruce 05-24-2016 07:27 PM

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Everybody gets a yacht...

Gravdigr 06-04-2016 12:29 PM

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Kayak completes solo voyage from Australia to New Zealand...

...sans kayaker.

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xoxoxoBruce 06-04-2016 12:46 PM

In days of old when a sailor was keelhauled, he would be tied to ropes going under the ship and dragged from one side to the other. Fast enough so he might be able to hold his breath, but they dragged him across those barnacles, squirts, and mussels. :thepain:

xoxoxoBruce 06-06-2016 06:58 PM

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But hey, no worries. :rolleyes:

xoxoxoBruce 06-15-2016 09:19 PM

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The fleet...

xoxoxoBruce 06-20-2016 11:48 AM

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At 790 ft long, with an 88 ft beam and 32,000 GRT, she was the biggest ship in the world for 5 years.
Compared to today's 1188 ft long, 217 ft beam, 227,000 ton monsters, that's tiny.

xoxoxoBruce 06-25-2016 12:50 AM

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When you absolutely, positively, want to get there quickly...
but absolutely, positively, don't have to get there.


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