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bbro 08-11-2017 09:27 AM

How much is too much
 
How much is too much to spend on a trip? While looking for trips for next year, I ran across national geographic led trips. I mean, I am not looking at the ones that are 10,000 or above (there are a surprising amount of those!), but still pricey. Since I am going on my own, I have to pay more, but I'm used to that.

I think they might be fantastic adventures. I am really tempted to book one for the end of the year in Yellowstone, but I do tend to be spontaneous.....

glatt 08-11-2017 09:43 AM

Everyone has a different price point.

For me, we spend about 10,000 for a family of four to go overseas for a week or so. If doing a domestic vacation, I'd expect to be more in the 4,000-5,000 range for a family of four. For a car trip, I'd expect a week to be around 2,000 - 3,000 for a family of four.

The real question is what can you afford, and what do you value? What is that money buying you?

You can do a trip for much much cheaper if you plan it by yourself. Tours are nice because you can check out mentally and you have a group to share it with but you pay for that.

xoxoxoBruce 08-11-2017 11:06 AM

Spend as much as you can beg, borrow, and steal, after all we deserve the best vacation pictures you can get. :lol2:
Seriously though, it depends on where you want to allocate your discretionary funds. If you want to party every weekend then it's less for vacation and vice versa. But weighing cost vs the potential experience, that's purely personal. When you get to the old folks home what are the pictures you took and the pride in saying been there, done that, worth?

limey 08-12-2017 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bbro (Post 993786)
How much is too much to spend on a trip? While looking for trips for next year, I ran across national geographic led trips. I mean, I am not looking at the ones that are 10,000 or above (there are a surprising amount of those!), but still pricey. Since I am going on my own, I have to pay more, but I'm used to that.

I think they might be fantastic adventures. I am really tempted to book one for the end of the year in Yellowstone, but I do tend to be spontaneous.....

If you're sure of the value for money, spend as much as you can afford. I believe that experiences are the best thing you can spend money on bar none.
Glatt is right, of course, that it's cheaper to organise it all yourself but I, for one, relish leaving all that shit to someone else when I'm on holiday. I know I can do intrepid, I've done intrepid, holidays are for relaxation (enjoyment, edjumacation, interest ...).

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Griff 08-12-2017 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by limey (Post 993855)
I believe that experiences are the best thing you can spend money on bar none.

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glatt 08-12-2017 09:22 AM

Yeah. It's worth spending whatever you can afford.

I went for a biplane ride on my last vacation. Worth it

monster 08-14-2017 07:08 PM

They said it. It's about your personal value for money -but spend as much as you can afford.

Everyone has different values. For example..... we were just in Rome and took a day trip to Pompeii. We've always been DIY/explorer types, but mooted for once just joining a tour and not having to worry any more about it -something which would generally have been out of our budget on most other trips. But as we looked into it, you only got 2 hours on site, "bathroom breaks" turned out to be commercial opportunities for vendors in bed with the tour company, more time was spent on the bus than anywhere else..... So we forked out big bucks to take the bullet train by ourselves and got 7 hours in the ruins, no sidetracks we didn't want, 1h 10 minutes each way @ 299kph. :D We didn't spend an awful lot less than we would've on a day coach trip. But we were not disappointed.

Figure out how much you can afford to spend then see what you can get for it. Then compare those options.

Get some guide books from the library, see what they recommend vis-ŕ-vis tours worth taking, sights not to miss... then see what packages you can find that include those things, contemplate how easy/much fun or not it would be to do it by yourself and that should give you a better idea of where your values lie/what is the type of experience worth paying for and what you could honestly miss and not lose sleep over. then see what really fits the bill and the budget.

bbro 08-15-2017 09:10 AM

Well, the thing is, I wouldn't take a trip to Iceland or Alaska or Morocco on my own, I don't think. Too nervous about where to go, how to do it, etc. Especially on my own (ALWAYS assume I will be on my own). It might be cheaper to plan it all, but I won't have to worry about transportation, part of my foods, etc. It doesn't include airfare which sucks, but it's a trade off, I suppose.

The trip I am looking at is to Iceland. They have trips all over the world that are more affordable than the big ones with no fee for a solo traveler. I think I am going to go, I just need to get my passport! Hopefully, I can make it to the Feb or Mar trip because I want to go to an ice cave.

This is the one I am looking at. They have options that you can add to the trip for activities during the free time.

Day 1 — Reykjavík
Arrive at any time.

Day 2 — Golden Circle/Selfoss
From Reykjavík, set out on a tour of the celebrated Golden Circle. Walk through Thingvellir National Park, which marks the meeting point of the North American and Eurasian tectonic plates. Continue to the mighty Gullfoss waterfall, and then visit Geysir, the hot springs for which all other geysers are named. Tour a geothermal power plant, and enjoy lunch made from greenhouse-grown produce at a geothermal farm. Opt to visit a spa or hot springs. (1B, 1L)

Day 3 — Selfoss/Vík
Travel along Iceland’s southern coast from Selfoss to Vík, stopping for a look at the stunning Seljalandsfoss waterfall and a stroll along the black sands of Reynisfjara Beach.(1B)

Days 4 & 5 — Jökulsárlón/Skaftafell
Travel to the Jökulsárlón glacier lagoon, and opt for a boat ride amid its blue icebergs. Later, visit the Throbergur Cultural Heritage Museum and enjoy a traditional dinner. The next day, hike into Vatnajökull National Park to Svartifoss waterfall, framed by basaltic lava columns. We’ll also embark on a guided walk atop a glacier in Skaftafell National Park. Strap on a pair of crampons, and get up-close views of intriguing ice formations, deep sink holes, and rugged crevasses. Depending on the weather conditions, guests traveling in the winter (November through March) may also have opportunity to visit an ice cave. (2B, 1D)

Day 6 — Reykjavík
Return to Reykjavík, stopping en route to learn about Icelandic cultural heritage at the Skôgar Folk Museum and visit the picturesque Skôgafoss waterfall. (1B)

Day 7 — Reykjavík
Depart at any time. (1B)

glatt 08-15-2017 09:49 AM

Do it. That sounds awesome.


A couple years ago, in '83, I flew with my family back to the US after being in Germany for a year. We flew out of Luxembourg on Icelandair, and they had a stopover in Reykjavik. You could hop off the plane for 1 hour or 25 hours for the same price. So we spent a day in Iceland. Very interesting. Rented a car and went to that big waterfall and some hot springs. I would have loved to stay longer. We slept in the car in seats that didn't recline. That sucked.

xoxoxoBruce 08-15-2017 09:51 AM

There seems to be a lot of on foot exploring, so in order to see an ice cave the rest of the tour will be very chilly.

bbro 08-15-2017 09:59 AM

glatt - I want to see the volcano!! I'm glad you think it sounds good. I get nervous that I am expecting too much or something.

Bruce - there is some hiking, but activity level is listed as Light. There's another expedition that is Moderate - a LOT more hiking. Also 4-5 times the price for 10 days instead of 7 - plus the plane ticket.

Also, I'm looking to fly first class :apimp:

glatt 08-15-2017 11:00 AM

I think Bruce meant that the winter in Iceland is cold, and you will be outside a lot.

BigV 08-15-2017 11:19 AM

Flying first class?

That sounds like too much to me. Extra expensive for same arrival time, practically. But, that's just me.

bbro 08-15-2017 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt
I think Bruce meant that the winter in Iceland is cold, and you will be outside a lot.

Ah - missed that. Actually, prepared for that. I have a Columbia jacket and scarves galore already. I would need more gloves and an outer layer, though.

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 993999)
Flying first class?

That sounds like too much to me. Extra expensive for same arrival time, practically. But, that's just me.

It depends on which airline I pick, I think. If I fly Delta, they have the sleeper seats. The trip there is over night, so I figured that would be best. IcelandAir has something more like a business class that isn't expensive that I may take.

I am kind of waiting to get my passport, but I don't want to wait too long because I don't want to miss it!

glatt 08-15-2017 12:05 PM

Get your passport now. No reason to wait.. It takes longer than you would think.

bbro 08-15-2017 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 994004)
Get your passport now. No reason to wait.. It takes longer than you would think.

I am when I get back home. I am at my parent's right now. I got enough stress with that. Maybe that's why I want to go to Iceland......

xoxoxoBruce 08-16-2017 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bbro (Post 994005)
I am at my parent's right now. I got enough stress with that.

Ha ha ha, the universal truth. :thumb2:

Gravdigr 08-16-2017 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bbro (Post 994005)
Maybe that's why I want to go to Iceland......

If I could, I'd drive ya.

classicman 08-20-2017 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bbro (Post 993786)
I am really tempted to book one for the end of the year in Yellowstone, but I do tend to be spontaneous.....

I'm not so sure you want to be there during the winter... check with some other people here who have done that already. From what I understand, some roads and attractions are not open/available during the winter months.

I just went last month. It was amazing. I'm not so sure it would have been as nice during the winter.

bbro 08-21-2017 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 994260)
I'm not so sure you want to be there during the winter... check with some other people here who have done that already. From what I understand, some roads and attractions are not open/available during the winter months.

I just went last month. It was amazing. I'm not so sure it would have been as nice during the winter.

That's why I am leaning towards these expeditions - they take care of all the planning and stuff. I don't have to worry about not knowing what's open or not. I am going to wait anyways. I think Iceland will be worth the wait

xoxoxoBruce 08-21-2017 10:48 AM

They both sound like great tours, you probably can't make a wrong choice.

bbro 08-21-2017 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 994281)
They both sound like great tours, you probably can't make a wrong choice.

Well, I am thiiiiiiis close to saying Fuck it and booking the 10,000 one for Iceland that is a lot more hiking and 10 days instead of 7. I mean, I keep thinking "If the cheaper one is good, then I'll go back", but will I? Really??

xoxoxoBruce 08-21-2017 07:21 PM

That's a big gamble, for $10 Grand you could do the shorter trip and beach front hotel in Florida. :D

bbro 08-22-2017 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 994325)
That's a big gamble, for $10 Grand you could do the shorter trip and beach front hotel in Florida. :D

Going to Florida this year - probably won't go back again. So many other beaches and islands to try. I'm probably going to end up doing the shorter trip. I just can't justify maxing out my credit card no matter how badly I want to do it. I am going to just say that I'll take a bigun for my 40th birthday in a few years

glatt 08-22-2017 10:45 AM

Yeah, if you don't have the cash saved up, I'd be cautious about taking on debt to take a vacation.

bbro 08-22-2017 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 994346)
Yeah, if you don't have the cash saved up, I'd be cautious about taking on debt to take a vacation.

If I did that, I would never take a vacation. I'm fine with having debt to go to new places. Life's too short to worry about it. I routinely pay off my debt, so it doesn't just keep accumulating.

Update on the Iceland trip - I think I found a local travel agency I may contact (communication with NatGeo and their partners has been non-responsive). It also looks like all the hotels offer day trips of some sort, so I can go that route, too. I don't know if it will end up being cheaper or not (doubt it), but I get to do exactly what I want and still explore Reykjavik itself

Gravdigr 08-22-2017 01:49 PM

Credit bugs me.

I'm w/Glatt, I would not borrow money to go on vacation. And (re: Chris posting his credit card debt) I would NEVER have told anyone I had a $25,000 credit card debt. In fact, I would have probably killed myself If I accumulated that much cc debt.

I don't like credit, and have no credit cards.
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Back to the thread subject:

If you get to Iceland, see if ya can learn the language in a week, like this guy did:


bbro 08-22-2017 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 994356)
Credit bugs me.

I'm w/Glatt, I would not borrow money to go on vacation. And (re: Chris posting his credit card debt) I would NEVER have told anyone I had a $25,000 credit card debt. In fact, I would have probably killed myself If I accumulated that much cc debt.

I don't like credit, and have no credit cards.

Ok - again, not my concern. I am not talking about how much debt I may or may not have. But there is sure as hell no way I am booking things online with a card directly into my bank account even if I did have the cash for it. Killing yourself over debt is silly.


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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 994356)

Back to the thread subject:

If you get to Iceland, see if ya can learn the language in a week, like this guy did:



Probably not since everyone speaks English.

Gravdigr 08-22-2017 02:34 PM

So sorry for the thread drift.

BUT, you did ask How Much Is Too Much? You asked our opinion.

Again, sorry. Won't foul up your thread again.

Have fun in English-speaking Iceland.

Gravdigr 08-22-2017 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bbro (Post 994365)
Probably not since everyone speaks English.

That statement speaks volumes.

bbro 08-22-2017 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 994369)
That statement speaks volumes.

About what?

bbro 08-22-2017 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 994368)
So sorry for the thread drift.

BUT, you did ask How Much Is Too Much? You asked our opinion.

Again, sorry. Won't foul up your thread again.

Have fun in English-speaking Iceland.

I did ask about the cost, not the payment type. I also answered both mentions of credit cards. But, I also believe that saying you are going to kill yourself over debt is absurd

Gravdigr 08-22-2017 03:31 PM

I am not going to kill myself over debt.

I have none.

Please get back to the subject of the thread, the person who started this thread apparently does not like thread drift.

Again, enjoy Iceland.

xoxoxoBruce 08-22-2017 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bbro (Post 994365)
But there is sure as hell no way I am booking things online with a card directly into my bank account even if I did have the cash for it.

I couldn't agree more. I don't give anyone access to my bank account. Paypal threw me out after three years because I wouldn't give them the account number. A friend went to the bank and they told her she had 86 cents left in her account because someone had drained it with a card. It took two months to get that money back.

Gravdigr 08-22-2017 03:43 PM

[alarm bells, sirens]Thread drift, THREAD DRIFT!!!!!!!![klaxons, ah-oo-ga, ah-oo-ga, dive,dive,dive!!!!/]

Will you be touring the volcanoes and waterfalls? I hear their they're wonderful that time of year. Enjoy Iceland.:)

Gravdigr 08-22-2017 04:07 PM

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Icelandic fine cuisine is second only to Britain:

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Enjoy Iceland™.

Gravdigr 08-22-2017 04:12 PM

Don't miss Skogafoss. It makes rainbows.

Might want to wait for them to take the fences down, and the grass to grow back, though.

Enjoy Iceland™.

Gravdigr 08-22-2017 04:17 PM

Go on New Year's Eve:



Enjoy Iceland™.

Gravdigr 08-22-2017 04:22 PM

7 Things Icelanders HATE about Tourism in Iceland

Enjoy Iceland™.

Gravdigr 08-22-2017 04:27 PM

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'Cuz their houses are fucking tiny.

Enjoy Iceland™.

Gravdigr 08-22-2017 04:33 PM

Make sure to buy some herb, and really Enjoy Iceland™.

What Does $20 Weed In Iceland Look Like?

glatt 08-22-2017 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 994391)
I hope you're a small person.



'Cuz their houses are fucking tiny.



Enjoy Iceland[emoji769].


LOL

monster 08-23-2017 08:22 PM

How much is too much? $10K if you don't already have it saved up.

bbro 08-24-2017 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 994483)
How much is too much? $10K if you don't already have it saved up.

Yea. I think I am going to save a big adventure for the year of my 40th. That'll give me time to make sure I have the money.

I actually found a local (to Iceland) travel agency, so I am thinking of going that route. But, it also seems like every hotel directs you to a site offering day trips which means I could book exactly what I want when I want it. AND I'll know the exact cost of the whole trip beforehand.

xoxoxoBruce 08-24-2017 10:27 AM

Does this mean you're giving up the Key West Fantasy Fest in October?

bbro 08-24-2017 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 994507)
Does this mean you're giving up the Key West Fantasy Fest in October?

Unless I can get someone to go with me, probably. It's CRAZY expensive. I'd rather spend that money going somewhere else now that I have a list of places around the world I want to go. I'll be at Key West the week after this year.

Gravdigr 08-24-2017 03:09 PM

Is it more expensive to go to Key West (Florida, I'm assuming) than to Iceland? From NC?

Did I read that right?

Undertoad 08-24-2017 07:43 PM

during that week. it's a demand thing

xoxoxoBruce 08-24-2017 10:26 PM

Yes, it's a crazy busy festival with high demand.


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