Classic Rock Rules!!!
 

IMO, there's been nothing new in rock music since 1980(ish). No one, but no one has, or will ever, top the pure inventiveness of The Beatles, The Stones, Hendrix, Tull, Zep, The Who, or most of the other greats of the sixties and seventies. Agree? Disagree? Discuss!

Disagree. there's plenty new in rock music since the early 80s. It's just not as good. ;)

Man, what a tough thing to say yay or nay. Part of me feels you are so right, that MOST new "Rock" bands are pale imitations of Zep, Floyd, etc. I feel most new bands seem to lack that raw ballsy feel, like Robert Plant's singing, Jimi and Jimmy's playing, or the oh-so-tight David Gilmour's playing.

But, I am currently in the throes of a complete Phish addiction, and I feel Trey is the most inventive, natural guitarist ever. I have been awestruck since 1992 and can't see an end in sight. I am about to buy 4 more live Phish CD's...

xoxo,

Define new. I'm talkin' about "Holy Crap!!!" type of moments, such as when I first heard (pick one) "Led Zeppelin", Jethro Tull's "This Was", "Are You Experienced", "Fresh Cream", shall I go on? I'm talkin' groundbreaking events in rock that survive to this day. Anything "groundbreaking" these days is fleeting, at best.

Guyute,

No offense, but I have never been able to stand noodling jam bands such as The Dead or even Phish. They just do nothing for me. Sorry, man.

no doubt.

Classic rock friggin blows my mind sometimes... Heart, CCR, Doobie Bros... C.R.E.A.M., Sabbath... so many i cant remember...but yes... Classic Rock Rocks.

Man, this goes without saying. Pre-90's > Post 80's.

Define new? What do I look like, a dictionary? :lol:
Every album is new. Every song, or for that matter every performance is new.

My point was, even though I like some of it, I like it in my head not my nutsack. There hasn't been anything since the early 80's that will bring me to my feet with a nutsack-clenching, chest-pounding, hair-on-the-back-of-my-neck-standing, anticipation, with the first few notes.

I've generally attributed this to changes is me, my life, rather than the music degrading. Even though the old music still excites me, it could be the association with the memories generated when the music was new.
Hard to separate Locomotive Breath from the topless barmaid in North Carolina.

nirvana had that elemental appeal that classic bands had. basic, gutural, honest. that's what i need.

that's why zeppelin speaks to me so. oh, and Jane's addiction. too.

MC5

Stooges

Motorhead

Sex Pistols

999

The Clash

New York Dolls

The Replacements

Buzzcocks

Undertones

Stiff Little Fingers

(early) DEVO

Captain Beefheart

The Fall

I don't agree at all, there has been lots of good newer music. Though I tend to agree, for the most part, there is still plenty of good music out there.
I can't wait for Manson's new album, I also hope that Tracy Chapman puts something out again soon.

I don't really listen to classic rock much but all genres get stable. That's what makes them genres. A few innovators and lots of bands who branch out from that innovation. As far as metal goes the only groundbreaking thing I've heard lately is a band called Darkspace.

Squeedler,
No offense taken. In my old age I have learned to respect other's opinions... Tho I didn't always!!
Truth be told, the only reason I even got into them is very serendipitous; they opened for Santana in '92 and I was going to see him. I didn't even like their music but I just couldn't take listening to PF any more- Roger Waters made me want to throw myself in front of a bus, despite David Gilmour's unparalleled geetar. Then the next thing I liked one solo, then one stanza of lyrics, and the next thing it's 14 years later and I have 20 of their works, and about to buy 4 more.

I'll be the first to admit that I don't often expose myself to newer bands, just don't have the time or the cash...that's why I don't shit on people (out loud) for their taste.

xoxoxo (aka Webster)

Why yes, yes you do! Just kidding.
The nutsack thing is what I'm talkin' about. I'm not deriding modern rock in all it's genres, in any way. I'm just sayin' that there's nothing "nutsack-clenching" (to coin a phrase! lol) in the last twenty years, about today's music, imo.

Guyute,

I totally know what you mean about exposure, but my eyes and ears are always open through my daughter and other lenses, and I haven't seen anything mindbendingly new. Call me my parents but a lot of rock these days is undistinguishable. I can tell the difference, for the most part between genres, but to me, Nickleback, Puddle of Mud, and so forth sound sadly similar. Am I wrong? (As I duck for cover!!!)

My stock answer to all musical questions from the past 2 years or so is:


Porcupine Tree.


Or the Mars Volta if you want to be really proggy and weird.

I just fell in love with that sentence!

being the old fart that I am, I do listen to dino rock more than anything else.

nearly 40 *cough* years ago
Hendrix Live at Monterey

That being said, I do like a lot of new stuff, too.

10 bonus points for anyone < 35 yo that can tell us what's wrong with the Hendrix clip.

Focus.
Gentle Giant.
Alan Parsons.
Todd Rundgren.
Steely Dan/Donald Fagen.
Art In America
H. P. Lovecraft
Joe Byrd

but it's not like there's *nothing* to listen to now:

Spock's Beard (before the breakup)
Imogen Heap: Hide & Seek
early Afro Celt Sound System
Origa (themes for Ghost in the Shell:Stand Alone Complex)

Well he sometimes plays a lefty guitar right-handed, but he plays every which way so I dunno bout that... He did play righty guitars left handed a lot, so I guess that's not it... hmmm... Gimme some time to think on this one, and I'll tell ya.

I know! I know! He's singing AND chewing gum! My mom said never to do that. Just goes to show you what an incredible talent Hendrix really was! And I'm not kidding!















LOL!!!! :D

Ew, that did annoy me. I hate it when people sing and chew gum.

That's it, you got it!:)

as did one of his mentors:
http://www.emusic.com/img/album/106/...8_155_155.jpeg

Albert King:cool:

Been listening to my London Calling CD all day... does that count?

Silly me, Barefoot,

I thought that was a given. Though possibly not to those younger than we.

well, you were warm... and then there was that thing he did with his tongue... at least when he wasn't using it on the strings. :blush:

i have been a devotee of La Hendrix since I was 16 (many, many moons and four-way window panes ago) Way, Waaaaay back, when he was v. obscure(at least as far as the '80's go) and I KNEW then, as a white, suburban Catholic High School girl that he, Hendrix, was our own sweet salvation. The mastery of the drive-you-wild-clit-tongue technique was merely a Bonus.

for new guitar bands, check out the Zutons, Franz Ferdinnand, Kaiser Chiefs, Snow Patrol, Belle & Sebastion..... there has been a real resurgence of guittar based pop/rock bands here in the UK over the last few years.

Only time will tell who will make it to the 'rock legends' status......

oh, and saw Focus mentioned earlier - they still touring, saw them live in Crewe not 6 months ago.... still as good as ever.

Man, the righty/lefty guitar was it? Everyone who knows jack shit about guitar should know that, maaaang...

And he strung it backwards, I've heard. :D

As I said, he'd play 'em every which way. Righty, lefty, back-strung, he played the works.

In my experience, which is (or may not be) considerable, I've never seen Hendrix play anything but lefty, and always w/ a righty guitar re-strung so the fat string is on top. I've been known to be wrong, once! :D

Regarding new music, my current fave in youth oriented rock is Jet. These kids are bringing back what rock is all about, raw, raucous fun! Somewhat rebelious, great sound, great writing, love 'em.

Jet and The Darkness are among the only bands around now that are any good.

Now THAT'S what I'm talking about, Ibram!

Classic Rock Rules?
 

There were no rules to classic rock, that's what made it good.

Oh, wait, you meant something different, didn't you.

Well, Wolf,

After some serious cogitation, I suppose there were "rules" early in the game, created by record company executives and radio station programmers/ managers. Their rules, to a degree, are still in force. Then came the likes of Beck, Page, Townsend, Lennon & McCartney, Hendrix and their ilk, and they DIDN'T PLAY FAIR! They broke the rules, changed the rules and made up their own rules. Thank God for the rebels of rock. :D